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Message 13850 - Posted 22 Sep 2010 11:02:21 UTC

    Another run of this popular past-time.

    Simple rules.


    * Post in this thread, anything with legible words.
    * Stay within the message board rules.
    * Empty posts are invalid towards winning.
    * You must wait for someone else to post before you can post again, any and all multiple posts are invalid towards winning.
    * Have FUN.



    Rules Subject to change at moderators discretion without notice

    The winner will be the last person that posted, when I have time to check the thread, after one of these events:


    * A specific date and/or time occurs
    * A specific number of posts have been made
    * I get tired of y'all nagging me who is the winner :)
    * I draw the winning card from a deck I keep hidden from everybody
    * An event I have chosen occurs (doesn't occur).



    Sorry there are no physical prizes, only the satisfaction you played and won and you name added into the winners list. :)

    Congratulations to the last winner of the last game, (me!) RandyC.

    Scorecard Recap of WINNERS of games.


    * 3 for swiftmallard
    * 3 for Krunchin-Keith
    * 2 for Bymark
    * 4 for John Clark
    * 1 for Dune Finkleberry
    * 4 for Mikey
    * 1 for Ageless
    * 5 for RandyC
    * 1 for Alijay
    * 2 for GasGiant
    * 1 for DogBytes aka DP (RIP) < Honorary Win
    * 1 for Cori



    Let the game begin...
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    Message 13851 - Posted 22 Sep 2010 11:25:20 UTC

      Kongratulations RandyC

      And you now have taken the lead as most number of wins.

      Just my luck to be knapping at winning time.

      Now for something boring, w&*k, but I'LL BE BACK.

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      Message 13852 - Posted 22 Sep 2010 20:56:11 UTC

        Ahhh...WINNING in wet weather.
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        Message 13853 - Posted 22 Sep 2010 22:42:40 UTC

          Mostly boring at w... again today. Learned a new trick. I would some web based free photo editing tools. One is sufficient to speed up touchups. But then after a few it could do thqat paint cannot, I saved the photo and finish edit off with paint feeling that was easier and more familiar to me.

          Also I got photoshop express on my cell phone and can do a few kool thing to pictures.

          Here's another kool cell phone trick, banking my phone. Some of you may think, ok I got a phone and can call my bank, but this is different. This is without talking. The app lets me view my accounts, balances and transactions. I can do things like transfer funds and pay bills and also make deposits. I already can do all this online, but need a scanner to make deposits, which does not work at home with my wireless scanner since that acts like a network device and that one scan function is not available. So at home I lost deposit ability. Along comes my cell phone to the rescue. To make a deposit I snap a photo of front of check, with the app, sign the back of check, snap a photo of the back. Poof, money is in my account and I can now do this anywhere, not just at w... or home. Just used it for the first time to deposit the rent check from my house-mate. No stamps, envelopes or deposit slips. I don't even have to get out of bed and walk to the mailbox. How kool is that ?

          I think i'm WINNING or is it knap time again ?

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          Message 13854 - Posted 23 Sep 2010 0:02:59 UTC

            Congratulations on RandyC's win while we sweat at 23C in the sun
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            Message 13855 - Posted 23 Sep 2010 11:04:38 UTC - in response to Message 13854.

              Congratulations on RandyC's win while we sweat at 23C in the sun


              Well, you may sweat at 23C, but meanwhile here in SE Michigan the high will be 88F (~31C). AND it's the first full day of Autumn. Forecast for the weekend is for highs in the mid-60sF...much more seasonable.

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              Message 13856 - Posted 23 Sep 2010 11:26:55 UTC - in response to Message 13855.

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                Congratulations on RandyC's win while we sweat at 23C in the sun


                Well, you may sweat at 23C, but meanwhile here in SE Michigan the high will be 88F (~31C). AND it's the first full day of Autumn. Forecast for the weekend is for highs in the mid-60sF...much more seasonable.


                Yeah it is hot here too..it is supposed to get to 92F(33.3C) today and tomorrow but then down to 86F(30C) on the weekend! I guess RandyC and I are sweating with the oldies!!!

                Keith my niece has been doing that with her iphone and bank for several years now, it IS cool! But I have one question, do you have to send the check in to the bank ever or just file it away? My parents give checks at Christmas and as soon as she gets hers, she is doing her thing and it is in her account, while the rest of us have to find a machine or local bank!

                RandyC my rac right now is 315,523 so it is coming back up again although it seems Einstein does give fewer credits than PrimeGrid overall. I am trying to get my projects totals above my Seti totals and that takes commitment. Fortunately pc's today and much faster than when I did my Seti stats so it won't takes nearly as long!!

                The results are back on my culture on my rash and it IS the last 2 letter of MRSA but they did not do a test to see if the 1st 2 letters match up or not. MRSA is Methicillin Resistant Staffaccous Aureaus, the spelling is waaaay off but you get the idea, it is a staff infection that is resistant to a treatment. It means that as of today they may actually stop the iv treatments, or they may continue them I don't know yet, my next appt is at 10am this morning.

                And since it is almost 8am now, I must say I am WINNING!!

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                Message 13857 - Posted 23 Sep 2010 13:57:47 UTC - in response to Message 13856.

                  ...snip...
                  Keith my niece has been doing that with her iphone and bank for several years now, it IS cool! But I have one question, do you have to send the check in to the bank ever or just file it away? My parents give checks at Christmas and as soon as she gets hers, she is doing her thing and it is in her account, while the rest of us have to find a machine or local bank!
                  ...snip...

                  No, After you get a confirmation you write VOID on the check and then can file it or destroy it. It put mine in the shredder. I get the confirmation online, but I wait until I also get the email to destory it, usually within about 15 minutes.

                  I've had online deposit for several years, maybe 3 or 4, but the use of the phone is new to me only because my prior model wasn't supported (hint: one reason I wanted the upgrade). They say they posted more than 1 Million depsoits just by cell phone since it's inception in 2009 sometime, I think its not even 1 year yet since they added that, amazing.

                  back to w&*k, oh was i actually doing any ?

                  Sneaking in a early break WIN.

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                  Message 13858 - Posted 24 Sep 2010 0:03:51 UTC

                    Tim for the POETS Day night shift to report for a win
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                    Message 13859 - Posted 24 Sep 2010 10:46:43 UTC - in response to Message 13858.

                      Tim for the POETS Day night shift to report for a win


                      Okay I will give it a try, this is about my rash:
                      it is side to side
                      mikey wide

                      Is that good enough for a win? I hope so because that is all there is!

                      Keith I think that is a good reason to get a new smart phone! I really do like that!!

                      JohnC my rac today is 314,327 that is up slightly from yesterday so at least positive movement!

                      I am now WINNING!!

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                      Message 13860 - Posted 24 Sep 2010 12:18:40 UTC - in response to Message 13859.

                        Tim for the POETS Day night shift to report for a win


                        Okay I will give it a try, this is about my rash:
                        it is side to side
                        mikey wide

                        Is that good enough for a win? I hope so because that is all there is!

                        Keith I think that is a good reason to get a new smart phone! I really do like that!!

                        JohnC my rac today is 314,327 that is up slightly from yesterday so at least positive movement!

                        I am now WINNING!!


                        Mikey, take care of that rash. The way you describe it, it has the potential of becoming very serious.

                        As for POETS...people say I'm a poet and don't know it (when they are trying to be kind...I AM a rather punny guy at times).

                        Regarding Smart Phones: I do not currently own, nor do I intend to purchase a Smart Phone (of any flavor). I may get a physical check that has to be deposited perhaps once every month or two. Everything else is Direct Deposit. I currently have no/feel no need for a Smart Phone.

                        Life is already complicated enough. I have no desire to drag my PC (or equivalent) around in my pocket. Other people have other needs/desires and I respect that...a Smart Phone is not for me.

                        I'm moving towards increasing my Orbit and Malaria processing at the expense of E@H resource share. I feel they are more worthy projects (although E@H is important too). This causes my RAC to go down because those project pay less per hour than E@H. Of course, if I was ONLY interested in piling up a huge RAC I'd be buying a bunch of gpus and stalking the high-gpu usage projects. YMMV

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                        Message 13861 - Posted 24 Sep 2010 17:08:43 UTC

                          Time a bank deposit, everyone else has to run out the door, i just sit here comfortably at my desk. I'm done.

                          Lunch break and some WINNING on the side.

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                          Message 13863 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 8:16:37 UTC

                            Yawn!

                            Time to get up and enjoy the sunshine - cool though (@9C)
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                            Message 13864 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 10:18:43 UTC - in response to Message 13863.

                              Yawn!

                              Time to get up and enjoy the sunshine - cool though (@9C)

                              No sun here, its black as soot out there.

                              74F/22C

                              I'm staying in bed a while longer, zzzzz

                              Sleep WINNING, like sleep walking, only not as physical.

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                              Message 13866 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 10:34:50 UTC - in response to Message 13864.

                                Yawn!

                                Time to get up and enjoy the sunshine - cool though (@9C)

                                No sun here, its black as soot out there.

                                74F/22C

                                I'm staying in bed a while longer, zzzzz

                                Sleep WINNING, like sleep walking, only not as physical.


                                Yes it is still dark out there! I wish I could sleep some more but the body said get up so I did!

                                RandyC the rash is over 50% better after a week of iv antibiotics and they have now put me on 2 oral antibiotics with orders to come back in if it either gets worse or when the pills run out. They started me at 1gm of iv stuff and after 3 days upped that to 1.5gm, so they upped the percentage of medicine and what they called the "peak" and "trough" levels of the medicine. The "peak" is taken 30 minutes to one hour after a treatment and it measures the maximum level of medicine in me. The "trough" is taken 30 minutes to one hour prior to a treatment and also measures the level of medicine in me. They are looking for a max level and a minimum level of the medicine. All my levels seemed to be okay. They were afraid I had MRSA which means a Methicillin Resistant staff infection, the words for staff infection escape me right now, but I have the staff infection just not the MR part. They even did a test to figure out what my particular infection was resistant to and mine is a common every day variety that is "subjective", meaning it responds to, most antibiotics even Penicillin. I am on Cipro and Augmentin, I am not allergic to either and seem to tolerate both and since they will both work it should be okay. I am keeping an eye on it to make sure it keeps going down!!

                                JohnC my ran today is only 314,184, down slightly from yesterday. It seems a pc of mine decided to take a nap and I have to go wake it up by restarting it! That happens when you use used parts to build pc's sometimes.

                                SwiftMallard how is the foot?

                                I am now WINNING but may not be long, I have Verizon Fios and the Speed Channel is out and Qualifying for the Singapore F1 race is going to start soon and the channel is not working!! I may have to explore Justin.tv to see if I can find it.

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                                Message 13867 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 12:33:37 UTC - in response to Message 13866.

                                  Yawn!

                                  Time to get up and enjoy the sunshine - cool though (@9C)

                                  No sun here, its black as soot out there.

                                  74F/22C

                                  I'm staying in bed a while longer, zzzzz

                                  Sleep WINNING, like sleep walking, only not as physical.


                                  Yes it is still dark out there! I wish I could sleep some more but the body said get up so I did!


                                  It's even cooler up here, although the sun is now up: 59F, due to go up to about 65F for a high.

                                  Keep posting; somebody will win...someday. Who knows, one of the RANDOM triggers might actually happen!

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                                  Message 13868 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 12:42:29 UTC

                                    Mikey, I hope you get better soon! With stubborn stuff like rashes it can never happen soon enough.

                                    Keith, the sun is up in the east here so it would be unusual for it not to be there also.

                                    John, the sun must by now be in the west for you so, Good Afternoon!

                                    Randy, do you even know yet what the random trigger is?

                                    As for yours truly, the foot is heaps better. I got the infection out and it now has fresh skin all over. I can wear socks again!
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                                    Message 13869 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 13:22:31 UTC - in response to Message 13868.

                                      Mikey, I hope you get better soon! With stubborn stuff like rashes it can never happen soon enough.

                                      Keith, the sun is up in the east here so it would be unusual for it not to be there also.

                                      John, the sun must by now be in the west for you so, Good Afternoon!

                                      Randy, do you even know yet what the random trigger is?

                                      As for yours truly, the foot is heaps better. I got the infection out and it now has fresh skin all over. I can wear socks again!


                                      Oh indeed I do...review the first post in the thread. Just keep shuffling on...

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                                      Message 13871 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 13:59:00 UTC

                                        I read rules almost as often as I read instruction manuals or ask for directions.

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                                        Message 13872 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 14:16:44 UTC - in response to Message 13868.

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                                          John, the sun must by now be in the west for you so, Good Afternoon!


                                          True

                                          The time here is 15.15pm (UTC+1) and the sun still shines. Temperatures have risen to the dizzy heights of 12C (53F) and the sky is clouding over.

                                          @Mikey - RAC is now at 352K , and struggling to rise.

                                          It looks like the synchronisation of the BOINCStats table is a couple of days behind now.
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                                          Message 13873 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 14:36:44 UTC - in response to Message 13868.

                                            Mikey, I hope you get better soon! With stubborn stuff like rashes it can never happen soon enough.

                                            Keith, the sun is up in the east here so it would be unusual for it not to be there also.

                                            My post was at 6:18am

                                            The official sunrise time for here is 6:52am. Nope it was not early this morning.





                                            John, the sun must by now be in the west for you so, Good Afternoon!

                                            Randy, do you even know yet what the random trigger is?


                                            Lets hope all your kards are in the deckand none are hidden up you sleeve. Are you even playing with a full deck ?


                                            As for yours truly, the foot is heaps better. I got the infection out and it now has fresh skin all over. I can wear socks again!

                                            WINNING while enjoying the first beverage of the day, jsut after beer-o-thirty that is.

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                                            Message 13874 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 20:17:07 UTC - in response to Message 13873.

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                                              Lets hope all your kards are in the deckand none are hidden up you sleeve. Are you even playing with a full deck ?



                                              Even I ask that question sometimes...

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                                              Message 13875 - Posted 25 Sep 2010 21:10:27 UTC - in response to Message 13874.

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                                                Lets hope all your kards are in the deckand none are hidden up you sleeve. Are you even playing with a full deck ?



                                                Even I ask that question sometimes...

                                                I hope your not using tarot kards.

                                                just relaxing for a while before dinner, which won't be ready until i get up and make it.

                                                Discovered my smart phone needed some updates to my apps. Nice feature, it checks every so often and it had a list for me to do, basicaly a few taps to authorize each one, which downloads, saves any app settings and installs in place of the old app. a painless operation.

                                                update, WINNING

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                                                Message 13876 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 0:23:34 UTC

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                                                  Smart phone are wide open to the virus and trojan attacks that PCs are getting proofed against. Unfortunately downloading patches is almost non-existant ATM.

                                                  Not running a smart phone, so I am winning.
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                                                  Message 13877 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 10:49:50 UTC - in response to Message 13876.

                                                    Smart phone are wide open to the virus and trojan attacks that PCs are getting proofed against. Unfortunately downloading patches is almost non-existant ATM.

                                                    Not running a smart phone, so I am winning.

                                                    Yes any compurter or device can be open to attacks.

                                                    The question is, how profitable is it to attack a particular device. How many users use it ?

                                                    Not all smart phones use the same OS.

                                                    Mine is android based.

                                                    Android is a linux based OS.

                                                    Most viruses are windows based because windows has the largest user base making it the largest target.

                                                    I don't see that it would be very profitable to attack smart phones, what would you get, a bunch of phone numbers already in the public domain, vacation photographs, music you can download for free, game high scores ?

                                                    Smart phones have a small amount of memory, compared to what can be on a PC, meaning it will have way less content. Again it would be better to target higher content systems as they have a greater chance of storing more valueable information.

                                                    There are easier ways to obtain what is stored in most smart phones.

                                                    I'm not saying it can't or won't be done, just to me it seems very unlikely.

                                                    now, wheres that virus that posts WINNING.

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                                                    Message 13878 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 11:39:03 UTC - in response to Message 13877.

                                                      Smart phone are wide open to the virus and trojan attacks that PCs are getting proofed against. Unfortunately downloading patches is almost non-existant ATM.

                                                      Not running a smart phone, so I am winning.

                                                      Yes any compurter or device can be open to attacks.

                                                      The question is, how profitable is it to attack a particular device. How many users use it ?

                                                      Not all smart phones use the same OS.

                                                      Mine is android based.

                                                      Android is a linux based OS.

                                                      Most viruses are windows based because windows has the largest user base making it the largest target.

                                                      I don't see that it would be very profitable to attack smart phones, what would you get, a bunch of phone numbers already in the public domain, vacation photographs, music you can download for free, game high scores ?

                                                      Smart phones have a small amount of memory, compared to what can be on a PC, meaning it will have way less content. Again it would be better to target higher content systems as they have a greater chance of storing more valueable information.

                                                      There are easier ways to obtain what is stored in most smart phones.

                                                      I'm not saying it can't or won't be done, just to me it seems very unlikely.

                                                      now, wheres that virus that posts WINNING.


                                                      All true but what about the gazillion email addresses and phone numbers you can get that are over 99% up to date? A small virus that sends the content of your address book and phonebook to someone could be worth some money to a telemarketer, spammer, etc.

                                                      JohnC my rac today is down again, it is 313,777 and I really don't know why now!! Unless it is just that Einstein pays less than Primegrid and overall I am just getting fewer credits. Oh the pain of crunching for your convictions!!

                                                      SwiftMallrd I am VERY glad the foot is better AND that you can put a sock on now. I guess the trips to the pedicurist are over huh?

                                                      RandyC the infection never went beyond skin deep, it was just large and nasty looking but essentially was just a large red and purple splotch around my navel. I has shrunk somewhat in size and ALOT in intensity from the beginning and hopefully will go away soon.

                                                      I am STILL waiting for Verizon to bring the Speed Channel back, I called just now and they tried a few things but haven't fixed it yet! I had no luck with Justin.tv yesterday maybe todays race will be better!

                                                      I am WINNING but not by much!!
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                                                      Message 13879 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 12:48:31 UTC - in response to Message 13877.

                                                        Smart phone are wide open to the virus and trojan attacks that PCs are getting proofed against. Unfortunately downloading patches is almost non-existant ATM.

                                                        Not running a smart phone, so I am winning.

                                                        Yes any compurter or device can be open to attacks.

                                                        The question is, how profitable is it to attack a particular device. How many users use it ?

                                                        Not all smart phones use the same OS.

                                                        Mine is android based.

                                                        Android is a linux based OS.

                                                        Most viruses are windows based because windows has the largest user base making it the largest target.

                                                        I don't see that it would be very profitable to attack smart phones, what would you get, a bunch of phone numbers already in the public domain, vacation photographs, music you can download for free, game high scores ?

                                                        Smart phones have a small amount of memory, compared to what can be on a PC, meaning it will have way less content. Again it would be better to target higher content systems as they have a greater chance of storing more valueable information.

                                                        There are easier ways to obtain what is stored in most smart phones.

                                                        I'm not saying it can't or won't be done, just to me it seems very unlikely.

                                                        now, wheres that virus that posts WINNING.


                                                        Well, you've already stated that you (and probably thousands more) are banking with your phone...including depositing checks. Wouldn't be fun to wake up one morning with your account cleaned out...

                                                        Keep posting...

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                                                        Message 13880 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 13:00:31 UTC - in response to Message 13878.

                                                          All true but what about the gazillion email addresses and phone numbers you can get that are over 99% up to date? A small virus that sends the content of your address book and phonebook to someone could be worth some money to a telemarketer, spammer, etc.


                                                          99% up to date, my old phone is about 5% up to date and the other 95% is old kr&* or things i don't use but once a decade and i never deleted. When entering numbers in my new phone i'm leaving behind the kr&* and entering only the current msot popular stuff.

                                                          You mean the qazillion numbers that are stored in PC's via backup or sync. It would be an easier target to target the PC's and get the same information.

                                                          Phone numbers are not a big target, telemarkers can just dial every number beteen 1 and 9999999999 and find those or look in any phone book. Taht would be far faster than writing a virus to kollect numbers.

                                                          Most people store less email or addresses in their smart phone, only the most popular friends. Others sync to their pc and its just a duplicate.

                                                          A better target would be PCs which are apt to contain more inforamtion.

                                                          I can get anti virus software for my mobile just as for any PC.

                                                          Remember too how viruses spread. Mobiles do not share in the same way computers do. I can attach my linux phone to my windows pc and transfer data back and forth, but i can't run any of the apps from the phone on the PC, a separate PC program is required for sharing. They are not always connected like PC's might be. To write a dual OS virus that can transfer itself from one OS to another is not as likely and even less likely it would bypass two anti-virus programs.

                                                          It seems to me that like linux over windows, mobile phones would be even a smaller target, the percentage of useful data you could obtain is too small compared to other sources.


                                                          Kind of ironic isn't it Mikey, It takes a looong time to get the Speed Channel back.


                                                          on to anohter subject,

                                                          I'm playing FreeCell. My dad has been playing for a few years and started with game 1, counting up, i'm not sure what number he is on. I started too back in 2009 when I got the netbook, but don't play much, its taken me about 2 years to get to game 76. Now I've got it on my mobile with a touchscreen, its easy to play. I've been playing some while I lougne in bed watching movies. I just finished game 100. Besides keeping my stats it also remembers the last game number played, so its easy to increment to the next number. On the netbook I had a text file to remember the last game, especially since it could be months between games. Proabablly less now with the mobile.

                                                          Looks like rain today. Not holding my breath for that one. Hope it does rain some and not just another one of those overcast days. Still rather warm outside, 76F and the sun is hiding behind the klouds.

                                                          Food, I'm hungry, time for breakfast.

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                                                          Message 13881 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 14:20:25 UTC

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                                                            Unfortunately, with the more secure new OSes, including Windows 7, and the auto updating and firewall/anti virus software for PCs, the opportunities for compromising PCs is now diminishing.

                                                            The next great target WILL be smart phones, irrespective of it's OS

                                                            I see for new mobile/cell phone sales, that smart phones sales are over 56% of these sales. Also there is no current means of easily downloading security patches for any of the cell OSes, unlike the MS Updates and hourly virus updates for various anti-virus applications.

                                                            It is the Internet and browser capability of smart phones that is, and will make them vulnerable.

                                                            Only buying mobile phones for use as phones and nothing else, so I will continue winning.
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                                                            Message 13882 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 15:45:09 UTC - in response to Message 13881.

                                                              Unfortunately, with the more secure new OSes, including Windows 7, and the auto updating and firewall/anti virus software for PCs, the opportunities for compromising PCs is now diminishing.

                                                              The next great target WILL be smart phones, irrespective of it's OS

                                                              I see for new mobile/cell phone sales, that smart phones sales are over 56% of these sales. Also there is no current means of easily downloading security patches for any of the cell OSes, unlike the MS Updates and hourly virus updates for various anti-virus applications.

                                                              It is the Internet and browser capability of smart phones that is, and will make them vulnerable.

                                                              Only buying mobile phones for use as phones and nothing else, so I will continue winning.

                                                              Your reference is like some 6-7 year old document, as it mentions future sales in 2004 and 2007.

                                                              Easy, huh ?

                                                              Maybe you missed my post, where my phone told me that there were updates for some apps, all i did was touch 'authorize' update for each app and it downloaded new versions and installed, more easily than even on a PC.

                                                              I have the 'auto' feature turned off, just as on my pc's as I want to review what the update is before applying.

                                                              There is anti-virus apps for mobile just the same as a PC.
                                                              one of many examples: http://us.mcafee.com/root/product.asp?productid=mobile_info
                                                              This stuff has been avaialble for 2-3 years.

                                                              To update the phone firmware too is just as easy, i used to get updates on my previous not-as-smart smart phone several times a year. Its as easy to update as pressing 'accept'. They send me or the phone retrieves notification, just as you would get notices on your PC from windows, firefox, java and so on.

                                                              The apps, if written so, can be set to various frequencies for updates, so there is no reason why an anti virus mobile phone app could not check hourly for security patches, the only reason would be no network access and then if there is no access, then the chance of getting a virus is ZERO.

                                                              Basically there is not much difference between a smart phone and a PC, both can have or use the internet, wi-fi, bluetooth and SD cards. The only difference may be the additional channel of communiccation a phone may use, cellular bands.

                                                              A mobile phone using the internet is no different than a PC. Email is no different. All are suspectable to mis-use and all can have the same protections.

                                                              The smart phones have the same protection as PC's.

                                                              So targeting them is just as hit-n-miss as PC's.

                                                              So back to your first statement, the oppurtunities for compromising smart-phones has no greater chances of succeding as for PCs, it too should diminish, if you can diminish from ZERO to begin with.

                                                              Kontinue to live in the stone age while the rest of us have fun with our mobile devices, while on the beach.


                                                              Next smart-phone trick:

                                                              Grocery list. This is really kool. OK so what's fancy about a grocery list. Well the method of data entry. No typing the description of lets say 'Milk'. Just scan the barcode on the empty karton, and poof, it finds the barcode in a database and enters 'Generic Kow Non-sour Milk' on your list. Next time you go shopping days from now, all those things you used up are on your list, in your procket, because lets face it, who would be anywhwre without their smart phone.

                                                              Since it hasn't rained yet i guess i'll go out and water the plants so at least they do die from the 84F temps sucking away the last drops of moisture.

                                                              On to something kompletely different, WINNING.

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                                                              Message 13883 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 16:09:30 UTC

                                                                Congrats to Bymark! User of the Day!

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                                                                Message 13884 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 20:19:13 UTC - in response to Message 13882.

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                                                                  Kontinue to live in the stone age while the rest of us have fun with our mobile devices, while on the beach.



                                                                  My preference is to continue to receive PMs, Email and other communications via my desktop on a 24" screen running at 1680 x 1050.

                                                                  I also have a view that a mobile is just a phone, and that personal calls (rather than text or Email) is where human communications should remain.

                                                                  When I am on a beach, I am there to enjoy the weather, scenery and sea or coastal features. Indeed, snorkeling and watching or underwater fishing is what I am there for.

                                                                  Regarding the need to keep in touch with the Internet or Email, while at the beach, is a complete and utter wast of my time, when I have better, and more productive, things to do with my beach time.

                                                                  Sorry Krunchin for this rant, but despite the fact my 4 year old mobile is capable of IM, Email, browsing, texting, and several other features, I have activated none of them.

                                                                  Indeed, when I am away (holiday, meetings, etc) my mobile is turned off. I do not consider my time should be available 24/7 at the beck and call of anyone wishing to ring me, let alone texting or Email.

                                                                  As a final part to this rant and a very old fashioned position to take:

                                                                  If I am speaking to someone face-to-face and their mobile rings, I consider it extremely rude if they answer their phone. That is unless I invite them to take it (or they have warned me they are expecting an important call). I take this approach if I am in a business meeting with the owner and I assume it is a potential business opportunity. However, in a domestic situation the call will be as far from important anyone can get, and usually is quite inane.

                                                                  My position on these increasing feature rich smart phones is I want to control the mobile device and not the device controlling my time which is the unfortunate position most of the slaves to new gadgets suffer from.

                                                                  I am as nerdy as the next gadget lover, but I choose my gadgets to provide real added value and applications I really want to improve the quality of my time.

                                                                  I do, however, enjoy reading the descriptions of what others are finding with their chosen new electronic gadget and how they get on with them and play with the features.

                                                                  After all that, and switching off my mobile, so I can sit quietly and enjoy this chilled pint of beer - and win.
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                                                                  Message 13885 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 21:34:53 UTC - in response to Message 13884.

                                                                    Golly John! After that rant I was really tempted to declare you winner as you expressed most of my feelings exactly. However, when I pulled the card from the deck it wasn't the winner. :(

                                                                    Keep trying, the winning event could/may happen soon!

                                                                    Kontinue to live in the stone age while the rest of us have fun with our mobile devices, while on the beach.



                                                                    My preference is to continue to receive PMs, Email and other communications via my desktop on a 24" screen running at 1680 x 1050.

                                                                    I also have a view that a mobile is just a phone, and that personal calls (rather than text or Email) is where human communications should remain.

                                                                    When I am on a beach, I am there to enjoy the weather, scenery and sea or coastal features. Indeed, snorkeling and watching or underwater fishing is what I am there for.

                                                                    Regarding the need to keep in touch with the Internet or Email, while at the beach, is a complete and utter wast of my time, when I have better, and more productive, things to do with my beach time.

                                                                    Sorry Krunchin for this rant, but despite the fact my 4 year old mobile is capable of IM, Email, browsing, texting, and several other features, I have activated none of them.

                                                                    Indeed, when I am away (holiday, meetings, etc) my mobile is turned off. I do not consider my time should be available 24/7 at the beck and call of anyone wishing to ring me, let alone texting or Email.

                                                                    As a final part to this rant and a very old fashioned position to take:

                                                                    If I am speaking to someone face-to-face and their mobile rings, I consider it extremely rude if they answer their phone. That is unless I invite them to take it (or they have warned me they are expecting an important call). I take this approach if I am in a business meeting with the owner and I assume it is a potential business opportunity. However, in a domestic situation the call will be as far from important anyone can get, and usually is quite inane.

                                                                    My position on these increasing feature rich smart phones is I want to control the mobile device and not the device controlling my time which is the unfortunate position most of the slaves to new gadgets suffer from.

                                                                    I am as nerdy as the next gadget lover, but I choose my gadgets to provide real added value and applications I really want to improve the quality of my time.

                                                                    I do, however, enjoy reading the descriptions of what others are finding with their chosen new electronic gadget and how they get on with them and play with the features.

                                                                    After all that, and switching off my mobile, so I can sit quietly and enjoy this chilled pint of beer - and win.

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                                                                    Message 13886 - Posted 26 Sep 2010 22:47:42 UTC - in response to Message 13884.

                                                                      I want to control the mobile device and not the device controlling my time

                                                                      John, rant on, no problem. This is the free speech forum, otherwise I wouldn't be here 'cause i'm a tightwad.

                                                                      Your points are noted. Here's my rant and or comments depending on your view.

                                                                      I too find it rude for someone to stop talking to me and answer their phone, unless they say something first or something like excuse me this is the wife calling.

                                                                      I dislike when customers come in our store, and are talking to me or someone else and then stop to take a call. I'm here to help you but if you can't talk to me because you are on the phone then I go on to someone else or something else, and when you are done, you have to wait, because i'm now busy.

                                                                      I dislike people too that answer it and tell the person they are in a store and will call them right back. Heck just ignore them and soon as your done call them back and say sorry I could not answer I was in a store or whatever, which is what I do, they understand. When you answer and say that you are being rude to both people.

                                                                      In fact a lot of my freinds are advised not to call me but text me instead and if I am avaialble i'll call you right back. Some of us do that a lot. When a call comes in, you only know through called id who it is, but not want they want. When a text comes in not only do you know who it is, but what they might want, such as 'want to party' or 'help, i'm outta gas'.

                                                                      Then there is the employee that will walk away from customers to answer his phone and take a personal call, excuse me but you are at work to serve customers, call the person back when the customer is done with you. If that happens to me I walk out of the store, sorry bud you lost a sale.

                                                                      Yes I agree that some people do not know proper etiquette.


                                                                      Now as for the mobile device controlling me, NOT. I have total control over it. It does what I want it to do when I want it, not when it feels like it.

                                                                      In fact I find it to be a great aid to lots of tasks.

                                                                      I read email on the regular PC and screen about once a week. i preview it daily on the mobile device, reading maybe parts of 1 in 10, the rest I just read the from and subject. If it is really important I might go use the PC and read the whole thing. I can remember days of mail, when you got a nasty letter because something got lost. With email and text messages it is easy to keep up on these things and avoid this and the stress.

                                                                      I get lots of text messages from my banks, at my request. These help me keep up on transactions and if there is any bad activity, I know about it. These help releive stress as I know certain things have been taken care of or I need to attend to certain things before it becomes too late.

                                                                      I generally look at the caller id before answering. Mine has an "IGNORE" button, meaning I don't have to answer. It also has a silent mode so it does not disturb me or others. Other nice features are if someone keeps bothering you, you set their number to be routed to voicemail. No more bother and voicemail comes in as text messages which can easily be deleted.

                                                                      On my old phone I even had some nuiscense numbers set with a 'silent' ring-tone. if they called my phone, it would ring silently, unknown to me, thus they never bothered me again. This is a great aid to me. Easier than trying to get them to put you on their do not call list. Especially useful for those political calls that do not have to obey the do not call laws.


                                                                      I appreciate all the things this tiny device can do. I remember the pre cell phone days. For business we had bulky two way radios in the car with limited range. Then the early cell phone, with battery was the size of a loaf of bread, only much heavier and it didn't fit in your pocket.


                                                                      Now, here's some more new fancy features.

                                                                      I've tried a couple differnent anti-virus scanners.

                                                                      First they do the usual scan for viruses, worms and trojan horses.

                                                                      Also provide a firewall for internet use.

                                                                      Both are about the same except they have some other features not found on PC's.

                                                                      First they can make a backup of you contacts to a sd card and/or secure website. You can view your contacts online, restore them if they get wiped out and even restore them to a new phone, be it the same type or different.

                                                                      Next is this really kool. Say you can't find your phone. One has a secure site, the other you can text the phone, but basically you get a google map showing you where your phone is, within about a few thousand feet. I tried it and it showed mine at least the correct street, even if it was off by about 10 houses or so. Should be enough to identify where you left it, like at the corner koffee shop or at a girl-firend's.

                                                                      Say you find the general location but still can't find it. Step two sends a signal to your phone and it makes a loud, very very loud alarm go off.

                                                                      Third is if your phone gets stolen, you send a special comamnd and it nukes the phone, deleting everything in it, hopefully before the thief has had time to make use of any of it.

                                                                      One also had a remote lock you could activate by text message so the phone locks itself until you put your password in.

                                                                      Pretty neatto tricks if you ask me.

                                                                      Still looking for the WINNING trick.

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                                                                      Message 13887 - Posted 27 Sep 2010 0:36:02 UTC

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                                                                        There are two types of smart phone users - the old grouches like me, who use a device to their requirements, and, two, the business types where the features are well used I would place you, Krunchin, amongst the latter and RandyC and I number amongst the former.

                                                                        I, unfortunately, find there is a third category of users - mainly the young generation X - where common sense has still to take and the phone and it's applications & features are there to drool over. The smart phone features are beyond what they really need and it adds no value to their life, and enslaves them.

                                                                        But this is purely down to their lack of common sense (a bit like using a SatNav slavishly and not reading the road signs and instructions, and the SatNav says it's OK to go up a one way street THE WRONG WAY).

                                                                        Korr!

                                                                        Am I winning?

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                                                                        Message 13890 - Posted 27 Sep 2010 10:24:58 UTC - in response to Message 13887.

                                                                          There are two types of smart phone users - the old grouches like me, who use a device to their requirements, and, two, the business types where the features are well used I would place you, Krunchin, amongst the latter and RandyC and I number amongst the former.

                                                                          I, unfortunately, find there is a third category of users - mainly the young generation X - where common sense has still to take and the phone and it's applications & features are there to drool over. The smart phone features are beyond what they really need and it adds no value to their life, and enslaves them.

                                                                          But this is purely down to their lack of common sense (a bit like using a SatNav slavishly and not reading the road signs and instructions, and the SatNav says it's OK to go up a one way street THE WRONG WAY).

                                                                          Korr!

                                                                          Am I winning?

                                                                          NB: Mikey is very noticeable by being so quiet!


                                                                          I AM HERE!!! I was just reading along trying to figure out how to jump in, with both feet or on tippy toes! When I was working I used to read my email even when I was off or on vacation. My reasoning was that people used to contact me instead of who they needed to and would wait for me to help them, so if I was off they would be inconvenienced longer. So by reading, and responding, to my work emails even when I was off it saved the users time and energy and saved me from having a VERY full inbox full of outdated stuff when I got back. Now that I am not working I still read my emails several times a day but not nearly as much and I limit the pc's I do it from. IF I had a smartphone I think I would do it like Keith does, read the headers but mostly respond thru the pc.

                                                                          I too dislike people that treat their cell phones as more important than me when we are talking or whatever. Many times I have lost my train of thought and the whole conversation because the other person answered their phone. I too don't mind if they tell me they are expecting a call, but to just answer it without any regard for me is frustrating. AND if a business person answers their phone while I am talking to them, without advising me they are expecting a call, I too walk away and give the sale to some other store! And if they are the only store that has what I want, not likely in my area, the internet is a big place and just full of stuff!

                                                                          JohnC my rac today is up to 316,564, so it is going back up again!!

                                                                          SwiftMallard I saw that Bymark was UOTD yesterday but forgot to post it! Hey what does that asterisk(*) mean after your name? I see it on several people and am curious if you did it or if the project did it.

                                                                          It is 6:30am and raining steady right now, it is a cool rain only about 65F outside right now going up to maybe 75 later on.

                                                                          I am now WINNING!!

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                                                                          Message 13891 - Posted 27 Sep 2010 10:27:28 UTC

                                                                            I just use my cell phone as a phone, all the internet stuff is disabled. In the evening and at night the ring is turned off. It's also off at meetings at w@#k, etc. The only reason it's even on sometimes is so I can call 911 if I need to. I occasionally do text messages but not while I am paying attention to someone else.

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                                                                            Message 13892 - Posted 27 Sep 2010 11:35:41 UTC

                                                                              Finally some rain. Started last night at 6 min apst midnight. I know because the hard downpoor woke me up, but it didn't last long. Now its a lite drizzle and looks to be an all day thing. The weather on my mobile show rain for the next 4 days.

                                                                              WINNING while not getting wet.

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                                                                              Message 13894 - Posted 27 Sep 2010 23:23:00 UTC

                                                                                It's supposed to be warm and dry for the next week. It'll help the flooding to go down.

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                                                                                Message 13895 - Posted 28 Sep 2010 11:07:57 UTC - in response to Message 13894.

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                                                                                  It's supposed to be warm and dry for the next week. It'll help the flooding to go down.


                                                                                  And we have a wiener, err a WINNER!!!

                                                                                  Congratulations to Swiftmallard

                                                                                  After an 11+ hour winning window, he has beaten the odds of 1.92% and won the Random Event occurrence! Yes, the winning card was actually drawn from the secret deck. After shuffling daily and doing a center cut before turning up the top card, the Ace of Spades popped up and said "we have a winner"!!!

                                                                                  You may start the next game or abdicate to Keith.

                                                                                  For those who are curious, the scheduled event was the nth post after the first game of the baseball playoffs... 'n' to be determined by the total runs scored in said game.

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                                                                                  Message 13896 - Posted 28 Sep 2010 11:49:38 UTC

                                                                                    Congratulations to Swiftmallard

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