Contradictions happening with my "Pending credit" list, depending on which link you use to get there.
On my home page (https://malariacontrol.net/home.php?userid=57156), there's a link for "Pending credit." Link leads to a page (https://malariacontrol.net/pending.php) that says, "Pending credit: 0.00"
But, from my homepage, if you click on the "Tasks" link, and then click on its "Pending" link (https://malariacontrol.net/results.php?userid=57156&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2), I get a webpage with a list of 20 pending tasks -- "Completed, waiting for validation," worth about 70,000 seconds.
I'm just saying, because one Pending link says you have no pending credit (which might be misleading or incorrect), and the other Pending link has the real, long list of pending credit (which you might not notice if you think you already got the desired information from the 1st link...)
All those Pending tasks are related to the May 28th Debacle. Generally, I think hardly any tasks become "Pending," usually, so maybe it's not a big issue. But I think both links, both allegedly pointing to the same information, should correlate with each other.
On a tangent, my list of Pending tasks has shrunk from 23 tasks to 20 tasks over the last 12 hours; that's good. I don't know if they'll be validated or not; that's inconclusive.
Best luck,
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Contradictions happening with my "Pending credit" list, depending on which link you use to get there.
On my home page (https://malariacontrol.net/home.php?userid=57156), there's a link for "Pending credit." Link leads to a page (https://malariacontrol.net/pending.php) that says, "Pending credit: 0.00"
That page is effectively redundant Neil. It relates to the time before the project switched to using BOINC's new credit scheme. Previously every task had visible claimed and granted credits, and that page listed the tasks with status "Completed, waiting for validation", their claimed credit and the total claimed credit for the listed tasks. The claimed credit still exists but BOINC's new credit scheme keeps it hidden from users. This means there's nothing to display on that page.
But, from my homepage, if you click on the "Tasks" link, and then click on its "Pending" link (https://malariacontrol.net/results.php?userid=57156&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2), I get a webpage with a list of 20 pending tasks -- "Completed, waiting for validation," worth about 70,000 seconds.
That happens when tasks are from workunits which have a quorum greater than one and yours is the first completed task. Those tasks can't receive credit until enough tasks have been completed with identical results to meet the quorum, in which case the granted credit will normally be the average claimed credit of the validated tasks (tasks which have different results are marked as invalid and get no credit). If the claimed credits are wildly different the claimed credit from the host which is closest to its long term average credit rate for the application will be granted.
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On my home page (https://malariacontrol.net/home.php?userid=57156)
I should also have mentioned that link goes to each user's own account page. The correct link for others to see a very limited version of your account page is https://malariacontrol.net/show_user.php?userid=57156.
But, from my homepage, if you click on the "Tasks" link, and then click on its "Pending" link (https://malariacontrol.net/results.php?userid=57156&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2)
The link you gave only works for yourself Neil. Everyone else sees a page which says:
No access
Other users can only see the pending tasks for each of your individual computers (e.g. https://malariacontrol.net/results.php?hostid=150157&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2). This is because some users choose to keep their computers hidden and making the "results.php?userid=" pages publicly accessible would negate that choice.
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Hi Thyme,
I thought "Pending" meant my results were being scrutinized. It's interesting that it's really about waiting for corroborating work from other clients. It changes the nature of my concerns. For instance, I can stop being paranoid about being on the Pending list.
Probably more complicated for Malariacontrol to get corroborating work from other clients during instances such as the May 28th Debacle.
I think I first saw 40 Pendings a few days ago. They were down to 20 yesterday; 15 today.
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> On my home page (https://malariacontrol.net/home.php?userid=57156), there's a link for "Pending credit." Link leads to a page (https://malariacontrol.net/pending.php) that says, "Pending credit: 0.00"
>> That page is effectively redundant Neil.
Perhaps you mean the link is no longer valid? Seems like a simply-rectified source of confusion. I would suggest that the invalid link should just be removed -- the "Pendings" are otherwise properly available from the Tasks webpage.
Personally, I'm concerned about it because I'm easily confused. Thinking of downloading my consciousness into my computer. Then I can donate my body to the gardener. Brain is already half compost. Eyes and ears go into the recycling bin; can't recommend turning 50; just don't do it. Watch out for tangents -- what was I talking about?
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> ... some users choose to keep their computers hidden and making the "results.php?userid=" pages publicly accessible would negate that choice.
I noticed there's an option to keep one's computers secret. Having trouble imagining why that might be necessary, but I appreciate the opportunity to opt-in before there's sharing. If I were still trying to contribute with a 1400 MHz Celeron, I might want to keep it a secret. But I think my 1.8 GHz Celeron (with modern instruction sets and modest 35 watt usage) is a beautiful thing, and I want everyone to see.
I think I have an E5400 microprocessor sitting in its retail box, waiting for me to install. Then I can chuck the beautiful Celeron into the trash. I'll get around to it.
My Boinc standings were improving more and more slowly, and I was keeping an eye on it. If I started losing standing, I would have been more motivated to change that processor. And then, the May 28th Debacle happened, and my standings became a convoluted mess. But, that wasn't the scenario that would have convinced me to replace the Celeron.
Saved by the bell.
cu,
-neil-
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