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Message 5724 - Posted 18 Mar 2008 19:15:17 UTC

    Everything has been running fine for months. However, in the last week or two, I\'ve noticed that my computer is hanging. If I can open up Process Explorer and kill BOINC and that process tree, the computer immediately starts to behave normally.

    Is anyone else seeing anything similar?

    The process names that seem to be behaving badly are called transmission_133.exe. I don\'t know if that\'s normal, or some sort of new work unit type...I just don\'t recall seeing that binary name before.

    I\'m using BOINC doing only Malaria Control tasks on Win XP sp2 with a 4 core Intel processor and several GB of RAM.

    Thanks!

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    Message 5729 - Posted 19 Mar 2008 9:01:33 UTC - in response to Message 5724.

      Everything has been running fine for months. However, in the last week or two, I\'ve noticed that my computer is hanging. If I can open up Process Explorer and kill BOINC and that process tree, the computer immediately starts to behave normally.

      Is anyone else seeing anything similar?

      The process names that seem to be behaving badly are called transmission_133.exe. I don\'t know if that\'s normal, or some sort of new work unit type...I just don\'t recall seeing that binary name before.

      I\'m using BOINC doing only Malaria Control tasks on Win XP sp2 with a 4 core Intel processor and several GB of RAM.
      Thanks!


      I have not seen this before but have you installed Java? Go to Java.com and check and see if your Java is up to date. If not it is a free update/install. I had \'issues\' with some of my machines in the past and after installing Java manually things cleared up.
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      Message 5732 - Posted 19 Mar 2008 17:25:52 UTC - in response to Message 5729.

        I have not seen this before but have you installed Java? Go to Java.com and check and see if your Java is up to date. If not it is a free update/install. I had \'issues\' with some of my machines in the past and after installing Java manually things cleared up.


        Thanks, I\'ll give that a try and report back if the problem still occurs.

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        Message 5871 - Posted 4 Apr 2008 13:28:44 UTC

          I\'m getting huge lag during data transmission (transmission_133.exe and the related optimiser are running according to the Task Manager). Updating to the latest version of Boinc seems to have helped a little, but I still have the problem. And, yes, my version of Java is up to date :(

          This has been going on for a couple of weeks.
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          Message 5976 - Posted 13 Apr 2008 16:23:30 UTC

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            Got a similar problem, anytime this process called transmission_13 runs, my system has hangups, few moments ago my patience was over so I killed it using the taskmanager, that solved the problem but led to a computation error with malaria control

            all other projects I\'m doing are running fine

            using win2k SP4

            started computating few days ago, so i cant say if it had run fine before

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            Message 5978 - Posted 13 Apr 2008 22:00:43 UTC - in response to Message 5976.

              using win2k SP4

              Seeing the errors on the two tasks that went wrong, both of them optimizers, I\'m fully assuming you don\'t have Java installed. Or not an up-to-date version.
              If you don\'t want to run optimizers, tell Malaria not to through your project preferences. Else install the latest Java runtime environment for Windows.
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              Message 5983 - Posted 14 Apr 2008 6:52:29 UTC

                Sun tells me this:

                Verified Java Version

                Congratulations!

                You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 5).



                and the installer also says it has already been installed.

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                Message 5986 - Posted 14 Apr 2008 9:43:15 UTC - in response to Message 5983.

                  Sun tells me this:

                  Verified Java Version

                  Congratulations!

                  You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 5).



                  and the installer also says it has already been installed.


                  I thought the older OS\'s were having problems with these kinds of units? There was a discussion a week or so ago and some of us adjusted our settings to not get those kinds of units on older OS\'s. I do not remember the reasons though. I have some Win2k computers and set them to regular units only and they crunch the work just fine. I also set all of my XP and Vista machines to get the OPT etc units and they now more than make up for the change.
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                  Message 5990 - Posted 14 Apr 2008 12:11:00 UTC - in response to Message 5986.

                    I thought the older OS\'s were having problems with these kinds of units? There was a discussion a week or so ago and some of us adjusted our settings to not get those kinds of units on older OS\'s. I do not remember the reasons though.

                    No, that was fixed. It may still not work on Windows 98/SE and ME as that needs a separate way of compiling the tasks.

                    But opt_133 is made to work on Win2k as well.
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                    Message 5991 - Posted 14 Apr 2008 12:20:05 UTC - in response to Message 5724.

                      Everything has been running fine for months. However, in the last week or two, I\'ve noticed that my computer is hanging. If I can open up Process Explorer and kill BOINC and that process tree, the computer immediately starts to behave normally.

                      Is anyone else seeing anything similar?

                      The process names that seem to be behaving badly are called transmission_133.exe. I don\'t know if that\'s normal, or some sort of new work unit type...I just don\'t recall seeing that binary name before.

                      I\'m using BOINC doing only Malaria Control tasks on Win XP sp2 with a 4 core Intel processor and several GB of RAM.

                      Thanks!


                      It\'s normal that there is no progress displayed for this type of workunit (that is a limitation of the so called BOINC wrapper approach to run the science application). But I\'m not sure this is what you see. You can read here how to opt out of this application if it causes problems.
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                      Message 6029 - Posted 16 Apr 2008 16:23:36 UTC - in response to Message 5990.

                        I thought the older OS\'s were having problems with these kinds of units? There was a discussion a week or so ago and some of us adjusted our settings to not get those kinds of units on older OS\'s. I do not remember the reasons though.

                        No, that was fixed. It may still not work on Windows 98/SE and ME as that needs a separate way of compiling the tasks.

                        But opt_133 is made to work on Win2k as well.


                        but theres obviously something going wrong...

                        message window told me something about DLL Error, the restart it recomended also didnt do the trick...

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                        Message 6462 - Posted 20 May 2008 21:48:48 UTC

                          Hi,
                          I\'ve got exactly the same prob and got very upset as this was on one of my work computers. Suspected a trojan, virus etc, tried to run spybot,AV, etc.
                          XP SP2, no other change no visible reason at all.
                          Transmission_133.exe ran amok all of a sudden. Now this task is killed and computer runs again. Please check malariacontrol.
                          Myother PC running w2k does not run MC for the moment, only seti and climate.
                          Thanks to avoid this to others!
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                          Message 6467 - Posted 21 May 2008 6:47:24 UTC

                            Transmission_133.exe hit again!
                            I had forgot to suspend malariacontrol so boinc ran it again this morning. Same story, the task taking up to 96% of the CPU time and locking it.
                            I suspend malariacontrol in boinc while this is not corrected.
                            Project people, do something about it! You can contact me through pm if you wish more info.
                            Cheers
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                            Message 6468 - Posted 21 May 2008 8:13:30 UTC - in response to Message 6467.

                              Transmission_133.exe hit again!

                              You can stop the project from sending you that task type by going to project preferences and setting \'Run optimizer application\' to \'No\'.
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                              Message 6470 - Posted 21 May 2008 8:52:43 UTC - in response to Message 6468.

                                Transmission_133.exe hit again!

                                You can stop the project from sending you that task type by going to project preferences and setting \'Run optimizer application\' to \'No\'.


                                Dear all,
                                we apologise for this, but so far cannot offer an explanation on what causes it, since most people seem not to have problems. The optimizer app is a \"side\" application of the malariacontrol project, and it\'s perfectly ok for you to opt out of running it by setting \"Run optimizer application\" to \"No\". The freed resources will then go to the main malariacontrol application.

                                By the way: Installation of java is in principle not required to run opt_ workunits, since they come with their own java runtime environment. However, if unzipping fails, it looks whether there is another java environment, and if yes, it will use that one..

                                Does this problem persist with version 1.38, which is the newest now? We have made a change to our app to work around a bug in the boinc client (the boinc client becomes unresponsive (to the application) while doing dns lookups, which caused the wrapper to exit repeatedly on some machines (saying \"lost heartbeat from core client - exiting\") . It\'s now not doing that anymore, and that might have something to do with this \"hanging\", though we cannot be sure.

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                                Message 6721 - Posted 14 Jun 2008 11:48:45 UTC

                                  no change on my machine :(

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                                  Message 6731 - Posted 15 Jun 2008 12:39:07 UTC - in response to Message 6721.

                                    no change on my machine :(


                                    The latest unit says \'aborted by user\', what did you see, or not see, to make you do that? Have you changed any of the setting about how often the pc writes to your harddrive from the defaults?
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                                    Message 6794 - Posted 21 Jun 2008 13:57:20 UTC

                                      I may have seen a similar problem recently, but at that time I didn\'t know what details to check. I was running an optimizer workunit on one of the CPUs of a
                                      2 CPU Vista SP1 machine with the latest version of Java installed. I looked at the simple view, then hours later noted that the same workunit seemed to have the same workunit running with approximately the same Elapsed Time. I tried suspending just that workunit and a workunit from another project took over that CPU. I then told the workunit that seemed to have a problem to resume, and after it later took over the CPU again, it finished apparantly normally.

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                                      Message 6796 - Posted 21 Jun 2008 14:04:07 UTC - in response to Message 6794.

                                        I may have seen a similar problem recently, but at that time I didn\'t know what details to check. I was running an optimizer workunit on one of the CPUs of a
                                        2 CPU Vista SP1 machine with the latest version of Java installed. I looked at the simple view, then hours later noted that the same workunit seemed to have the same workunit running with approximately the same Elapsed Time. I tried suspending just that workunit and a workunit from another project took over that CPU. I then told the workunit that seemed to have a problem to resume, and after it later took over the CPU again, it finished apparantly normally.


                                        The OPT units do not set a checkpoint as they crunch. That measn that if you suspend the unit and do not keep the unit in memory it should start over when it starts back up again. They also only run for 2 hours max right now. It has varied between 2 and 3 hours depending on the actual units being send out. The unit name gives the max length of time it should run. The OPT units also do not have a timer showing how long it has crunched, this is due to the way the units are being distributed. They are sent out with a \"wrapper\" meaning they don\'t have to be compiled for each type of computer. They are very generic and therefore all the bells and whistles are not in them.
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