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Message 8750 - Posted 4 Dec 2008 9:13:15 UTC

    From Dec 10th 2008, malariacontrol.net will for some time not be able to efficiently make use of the PCs you are volunteering. Workunits will only be sent out intermittently. If you want to make sure your PC continues to support scientific research, please attach to another project if you have not already done so. The BOINC webpage has a list of projects to chose from and instructions on how to attach your client to those.

    We recommend that you attach your BOINC client to at least one other project. If you plan to contribute to malariacontrol.net again once new workunits are available, you can set the quota for the other projects to low values in your project preferences.

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    Message 8755 - Posted 4 Dec 2008 16:28:48 UTC - in response to Message 8750.

      Some information on the other projects I participate in or try to participate in:

      Rosetta@home is working on a number of diseases, including malaria. However, they currently have a few problems that may not make them a good choice for everyone. One is that they recently switched to a new fileserver and expect to take about one more day to finish transferring all the files on the old fileserver to the new one. Another is their minirosetta 1.40 program has a number of problems with its new features, but they are still using it. Looks like it will eventually be a good choice for when malariacontrol.net doesn't offer enough workunits, though.

      http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

      World Community Grid is a large site with a number of projects, including one for dengue (another mosquito-bourne disease), but the center for that project is in the area of Texas hit by Hurricane Ike and is currently inactive. They also have one for improving rice, and so on.

      http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/index.jsp

      Cels@Home is currently going inactive for a transfer to a different server.

      Predictor @ Home has been essentially inactive for several months.

      boincsimap expects not to create any more workunits for the rest of this month; they usually have new workunits only the first few days of each month.

      POEM@HOME is a possibility.

      http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/

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      Message 8757 - Posted 4 Dec 2008 20:27:41 UTC

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        I'm glad I was able to do my bit for the project! I hope the results we have helped to generate make a difference to the spread of malaria.

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        Message 8763 - Posted 5 Dec 2008 9:49:19 UTC - in response to Message 8757.

          I'm glad I was able to do my bit for the project! I hope the results we have helped to generate make a difference to the spread of malaria.

          Live long and BOINC!


          As in the words of my lunch buddy..."ditto"!
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          Message 8776 - Posted 6 Dec 2008 12:34:32 UTC - in response to Message 8755.

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            Rosetta@home is working on a number of diseases, including malaria. However, they currently have a few problems that may not make them a good choice for everyone. One is that they recently switched to a new fileserver and expect to take about one more day to finish transferring all the files on the old fileserver to the new one. Another is their minirosetta 1.40 program has a number of problems with its new features, but they are still using it. Looks like it will eventually be a good choice for when malariacontrol.net doesn't offer enough workunits, though.

            http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/


            Rosetta@home is now moving to minirosetta 1.45. Not enough information yet on how problem-free that version is, but so far it looks likely to be relatively problem-free by Dec 10th. However, some of their new features are RAM memory-hungry enough that they've already get up a way of letting how much memory your machine has available influence which workunits it gets.

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            Message 8780 - Posted 7 Dec 2008 22:35:06 UTC - in response to Message 8776.

              Rosetta@home is now moving to minirosetta 1.45. Not enough information yet on how problem-free that version is, but so far it looks likely to be relatively problem-free by Dec 10th. However, some of their new features are RAM memory-hungry enough that they've already get up a way of letting how much memory your machine has available influence which workunits it gets.


              Most of the 1.45 workunits I got there completed successfully. However, expect a few that don't.

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              Message 8789 - Posted 8 Dec 2008 20:33:24 UTC

                Now with less of work unit we need a deadline of 7 days.
                I hope this project will go on……..
                Please admin people do this adjustment; My computers will go crazy with this 3-4 days report deadline.


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                Message 8801 - Posted 10 Dec 2008 19:17:58 UTC

                  We have now stopped the remaining model-fitting runs, so that from today there will be no regular supply of work for some time. We expect that it will be at some point early next year that we will have more work of the type that generates a constant flow of workunits.

                  We still have one simulation experiment that we will run this year. It will comprise several hundred thousand workunits, and we will soon be ready to start. The batches will go out over the next few days.

                  We hope that we will also be ready to start testing a new application before the end of the year, so you'll occasionally get a few workunits if you stay attached.
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                  Message 8806 - Posted 11 Dec 2008 6:19:24 UTC - in response to Message 8801.

                    Thanks again for keeping us informed

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                    We have now stopped the remaining model-fitting runs, so that from today there will be no regular supply of work for some time. We expect that it will be at some point early next year that we will have more work of the type that generates a constant flow of workunits.

                    We still have one simulation experiment that we will run this year. It will comprise several hundred thousand workunits, and we will soon be ready to start. The batches will go out over the next few days.

                    We hope that we will also be ready to start testing a new application before the end of the year, so you'll occasionally get a few workunits if you stay attached.
                    Thanks
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                    Message 8853 - Posted 17 Dec 2008 13:56:24 UTC - in response to Message 8755.

                      I haven't been BOINCing for a while but when I allowed new tasks I got many work units from malariacontrol.

                      boincsimap expects not to create any more workunits for the rest of this month; they usually have new workunits only the first few days of each month.

                      I've not got much work from them in the past but I got work units today.

                      (Note, you find it on the list as "SIMAP".)

                      POEM@HOME is a possibility.

                      http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/

                      I attached to that project and got work. Only had to enter that url to attach.
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                      Message 8855 - Posted 17 Dec 2008 23:48:23 UTC

                        I haven't run out of work yet. Appears to be heaps in the pipeline, but people should attach to a backup project - just in case.

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                        Message 8858 - Posted 18 Dec 2008 3:16:48 UTC - in response to Message 8855.

                          I haven't run out of work yet. Appears to be heaps in the pipeline, but people should attach to a backup project - just in case.


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                          Message 8864 - Posted 18 Dec 2008 19:16:51 UTC - in response to Message 8776.

                            Rosetta@home is working on a number of diseases, including malaria. However, they currently have a few problems that may not make them a good choice for everyone. One is that they recently switched to a new fileserver and expect to take about one more day to finish transferring all the files on the old fileserver to the new one. Another is their minirosetta 1.40 program has a number of problems with its new features, but they are still using it. Looks like it will eventually be a good choice for when malariacontrol.net doesn't offer enough workunits, though.

                            http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/


                            Rosetta@home is now moving to minirosetta 1.45. Not enough information yet on how problem-free that version is, but so far it looks likely to be relatively problem-free by Dec 10th. However, some of their new features are RAM memory-hungry enough that they've already get up a way of letting how much memory your machine has available influence which workunits it gets.


                            They've fixed a few more problems and are now at minirosetta 1.47.

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                            Message 8866 - Posted 19 Dec 2008 2:25:30 UTC

                              Hi.
                              I'm getting this now why server page says there is plenty.

                              Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:05 EST|malariacontrol.net|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 10181 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
                              Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
                              Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work sent
                              Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for malariacontrol.net
                              Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for malariacontrol.net test version
                              Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for Prediction of Malaria Prevalence
                              Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for Estimation of parameters of infection dynamics (variable duration, max 4h)

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                              Message 8875 - Posted 19 Dec 2008 20:54:24 UTC - in response to Message 8866.

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                                Hi.
                                I'm getting this now why server page says there is plenty.

                                Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:05 EST|malariacontrol.net|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 10181 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
                                Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
                                Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work sent
                                Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for malariacontrol.net
                                Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for malariacontrol.net test version
                                Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for Prediction of Malaria Prevalence
                                Fri 19 Dec 2008 12:34:10 EST|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for Estimation of parameters of infection dynamics (variable duration, max 4h)

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                                Hi.
                                I'm still getting these same messages now on both PC's plus upload errors can
                                someone from the project please say something about this or fix it.

                                thanks.

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                                Message 8903 - Posted 22 Dec 2008 2:13:42 UTC

                                  It's odd, because I just now noticed this thread.

                                  I haven't had any problems getting work. I've got 2 WUs right now waiting. Maybe I wasn't looking at the right times.
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                                  Message 8904 - Posted 22 Dec 2008 5:20:36 UTC

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                                    I couldn't get WUs on and off over a couple of days, but now I have nine :)

                                    I have never had nine queued up before and I can't imagine why my client wanted nine, but it did and it got them :)

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                                    Message 8905 - Posted 22 Dec 2008 6:45:03 UTC

                                      Hi.

                                      Yes well, my quad has been hungry lately. ;)

                                      Trying to help them get threw the work before Xmas, is all.

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                                      Message 8910 - Posted 22 Dec 2008 16:58:04 UTC

                                        A short update on the progress with the current simulation study (workunits wu_2**_, wu_3**_, and wu_4**_): Because it was decided to use 5 instead of the previous 3 replicates for every simulated scenario*, we are still sending out work. We have two more batches to upload (a total of 130'000 workunit, or 260'000 task), and then there will be no more new work until 2009.

                                        Nick

                                        *This means replication on the application level (to minimize stochastic variation in the predictions), not on the level of the BOINC scheduler (to validate results, there we still use a quorum of two).

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                                        Message 8913 - Posted 23 Dec 2008 10:37:50 UTC - in response to Message 8905.

                                          Hi.

                                          Yes well, my quad has been hungry lately. ;)

                                          Trying to help them get threw the work before Xmas, is all.
                                          pete.


                                          Maybe that is the key, I have about 6 single core machines all crunching along nicely with plenty of work. Now they are all attached to Rosetta too, but I do not think they have to be. They all seem to be getting plenty of work. Maybe because you have a newer, fancier, faster pc with multiple cores the wu's are not available. Maybe because I don't want as many there are enough.
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                                          Message 8936 - Posted 26 Dec 2008 20:27:22 UTC

                                            I have a quad core, and never have trouble getting work from Malaria.

                                            The shortage of WUs announcement was a bit premature, but it is still coming. We just haven't reached it yet. Sometime in the next week or so?


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                                            Message 8960 - Posted 31 Dec 2008 14:31:47 UTC

                                              Seems like all the WU's have dried up now...

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                                              Message 8961 - Posted 31 Dec 2008 17:46:36 UTC - in response to Message 8960.

                                                Seems like all the WU's have dried up now...

                                                I agree. I've gotten zip in three days. :-(
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                                                Message 8963 - Posted 31 Dec 2008 22:29:48 UTC - in response to Message 8961.

                                                  Seems like all the WU's have dried up now...

                                                  I agree. I've gotten zip in three days. :-(


                                                  Yup me too, no units here either.
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                                                  Message 8967 - Posted 1 Jan 2009 5:23:43 UTC

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                                                    Well, they did say intermittent ...

                                                    SIMAP is issuing ...

                                                    Though if history is a guide they will be dry by the end of next week ... Then a long 3 weeks before they have work again ... sigh ...

                                                    {edit}and Just when I was going to try to "push" Malaria harder to get it over my total for SaH ... so much for my planning I suppose ... well, I will just have to work on other projects in the mean time ... WCG is almost ready to go over and Cosmology is running up nicely too ... oh, and so is GPU Grid .. wow! in two weeks ... {/edit}
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                                                    Message 9002 - Posted 5 Jan 2009 18:19:19 UTC

                                                      Pretty soon I won't even be able to post. :-(
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                                                      Message 9028 - Posted 9 Jan 2009 18:46:00 UTC

                                                        Well, I switched my PC's over the other projects. However, I am still keeping this one accepting new task so that if there is any new work, I will get some. I am looking forward to switching my PC's back full time once there is new work.

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                                                        Message 9029 - Posted 9 Jan 2009 20:04:39 UTC - in response to Message 9028.

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                                                          Well, I switched my PC's over the other projects. However, I am still keeping this one accepting new task so that if there is any new work, I will get some. I am looking forward to switching my PC's back full time once there is new work.


                                                          Same here, but when do we get new task, day 1, 2, 3, in (during) the next week ,1. 2, 3 ??????

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                                                          Message 9030 - Posted 9 Jan 2009 20:14:34 UTC

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                                                            Darn! Two of my main projects -- malaria & Rosetta -- seem not to be issuing new work units. What's a fella to do? Go back to World Community, I guess. Boo hiss!
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                                                            Message 9031 - Posted 9 Jan 2009 20:42:16 UTC

                                                              Is it known when there will be some new workunits?

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                                                              Message 9037 - Posted 10 Jan 2009 12:27:02 UTC - in response to Message 9030.

                                                                Darn! Two of my main projects -- malaria & Rosetta -- seem not to be issuing new work units. What's a fella to do? Go back to World Community, I guess. Boo hiss!


                                                                Poem@Home is where I went
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                                                                Rosetta is back giving out units again though, aren't you getting any from them?
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                                                                Message 9039 - Posted 10 Jan 2009 14:28:02 UTC - in response to Message 9030.

                                                                  Darn! Two of my main projects -- malaria & Rosetta -- seem not to be issuing new work units. What's a fella to do? Go back to World Community, I guess. Boo hiss!


                                                                  Well, there is the new sub-project if you don't have your gold badge yet ...

                                                                  If you have a GPU there is also GPU Grid ...

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                                                                  Message 9040 - Posted 10 Jan 2009 18:03:14 UTC - in response to Message 9039.

                                                                    Rosetta is issuing work -- they just went through some changes and updates over the past week or so. On the other hand, it looks like Malaria is going turtle as far as new work is concerned. 'Intermitemt' shouldn't mean rarely or not at all for a month or more. Oh well, I've lots of other projects still running.


                                                                    Darn! Two of my main projects -- malaria & Rosetta -- seem not to be issuing new work units. What's a fella to do? Go back to World Community, I guess. Boo hiss!


                                                                    Well, there is the new sub-project if you don't have your gold badge yet ...

                                                                    If you have a GPU there is also GPU Grid ...

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                                                                    Message 9041 - Posted 10 Jan 2009 19:19:10 UTC - in response to Message 9040.

                                                                      Rosetta is issuing work -- they just went through some changes and updates over the past week or so. On the other hand, it looks like Malaria is going turtle as far as new work is concerned. 'Intermitemt' shouldn't mean rarely or not at all for a month or more. Oh well, I've lots of other projects still running.


                                                                      I went thru this type of thing last year with a genealogy program I use, they said the update would be ready on such and such a date, it wasn't. HOLY HELL was raised by those that thought the date was something that should not have been missed. Even when the head programmer said there were some last minute glitches found and the program could not be released with them, there were those that still were not happy. IMHO saying nothing is sometimes better than saying something and then being wrong. I personally will wait and keep checking back and restart the crunching when I can. Crunching for a cure for Malaria, or at least a chance for a cure, is better than crunching for a project that does not utilize the data returned!
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                                                                      Message 9046 - Posted 12 Jan 2009 13:19:18 UTC - in response to Message 9041.

                                                                        Rosetta is issuing work -- they just went through some changes and updates over the past week or so. On the other hand, it looks like Malaria is going turtle as far as new work is concerned. 'Intermitemt' shouldn't mean rarely or not at all for a month or more. Oh well, I've lots of other projects still running.


                                                                        I went thru this type of thing last year with a genealogy program I use, they said the update would be ready on such and such a date, it wasn't. HOLY HELL was raised by those that thought the date was something that should not have been missed. Even when the head programmer said there were some last minute glitches found and the program could not be released with them, there were those that still were not happy. IMHO saying nothing is sometimes better than saying something and then being wrong. I personally will wait and keep checking back and restart the crunching when I can. Crunching for a cure for Malaria, or at least a chance for a cure, is better than crunching for a project that does not utilize the data returned!



                                                                        I agree, that is one of the reasons I have not been doing much for SaH these last few years ... as best as I can tell they are still not really using or looking at the data in any comprehensive way. There are lots of projects now that seem to be doing something real ... though sadly too many of them seem to be spotty on the work ... and far too many seem to have just stopped (sadly) ...

                                                                        But I can have hope, and I am even pushing more projects over the the baseline of work I did for SaH so that I have done more work for those projects that are doing something real vice just pushing work out and taking back answers ... With luck, by the middle of next month I will have 3 more projects there ... I had hoped Malaria would be among the crop I would raise ... but ... well, no work, there is no work ... I will do other projects ... it is not as if there were not plenty of choices ....
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                                                                        Message 9049 - Posted 12 Jan 2009 14:19:04 UTC

                                                                          Apparently they've turned down the juice to the boards too. It took nearly five minutes to load this page, & post this.

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                                                                            Apparently they've turned down the juice to the boards too. It took nearly five minutes to load this page, & post this.

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                                                                            Message 9051 - Posted 12 Jan 2009 16:48:14 UTC - in response to Message 9050.

                                                                              Apparently they've turned down the juice to the boards too. It took nearly five minutes to load this page, & post this.

                                                                              Thank God I don't have dial up!


                                                                              We seem to have some problems with the network at the University of Geneva, where this server is hosted. The server was completely unreachable after some maintenance work on Thur, Jan 8th. On Friday it was back, but since yesterday Sun it seems to be reachable on and off. The engineers in Geneva are working on this.

                                                                              As you may have seen, all remaining workunits have completed last week. It will be a while until there is more work available. The first work that will become available (within the next few weeks) will be for a new implementation of the main malariacontrol application. We'll post more information at time the application is ready.

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                                                                              Message 9052 - Posted 12 Jan 2009 19:14:04 UTC - in response to Message 9037.

                                                                                Darn! Two of my main projects -- malaria & Rosetta -- seem not to be issuing new work units. What's a fella to do? Go back to World Community, I guess. Boo hiss!


                                                                                Poem@Home is where I went
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                                                                                Rosetta is back giving out units again though, aren't you getting any from them?


                                                                                Rosetta@home is currently having intermittent problems with keeping their workunit generator programs running, especially at night their time. so expect the availability of workunits there to be intermittent also. Frequent software updates, and a rather high bug level for a BOINC site past beta test.

                                                                                I've noticed only two other BOINC projects past beta test, reachable in English, currently providing workunits for medical research, and not requiring special hardware such as GPUs.

                                                                                Poem@Home is the most reliable at keeping workunits available all the time. They provide short workunits, without the bug level seen at Rosetta@home, but they aren't updating their software very often. They are, however, running low on available workunits.

                                                                                World Community Grid provides a number of types of long workunits, from a new site after they moved a few days ago. A high bug level for their new The Clean Energy Project, currently no workunits for their dengue project, but workunits with a rather low bug level for their other active projects.

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                                                                                Message 9070 - Posted 19 Jan 2009 17:36:52 UTC

                                                                                  Darn! Two of my main projects -- malaria & Rosetta -- seem not to be issuing new work units. What's a fella to do? Go back to World Community, I guess. Boo hiss!

                                                                                  I see nothing wrong with WCG. I'm crunching there steady. It seems like a healthy way to crunch while waiting for Malaria to get turned back on. I've been crunching steady with WCG steady for a year now anyway.

                                                                                  Don't care much for the forums though. They're hard as hell to follow.
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                                                                                  Message 9124 - Posted 27 Jan 2009 11:10:57 UTC - in response to Message 9070.

                                                                                    I also use the World Community Grid (WCG):
                                                                                    One of the studies is Dengue drugs - that tackle malaria! So this should interest anyone contributing to malaria control.

                                                                                    The WGC is the only project that offers work units from several different research groups at once, so it is always running (with only part of the web server going offline, when updating stats every night for an hour).

                                                                                    The WCG gives you the option to participate in different groups or opt out; so if you are not so keen on nutritious rice, you can opt out!

                                                                                    You could for example select to participate in:

                                                                                    Discovering Dengue Drugs,
                                                                                    FightAIDS@Home,
                                                                                    Help Conquer Cancer,
                                                                                    The Clean Energy Project,

                                                                                    But opt out of the others.

                                                                                    The points system is a bit different, with each project having points, and you can earn badges for participation levels:

                                                                                    https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/images/pb/faah_2.jpg
                                                                                    https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/images/pb/cep1_0.jpg

                                                                                    You can also make a 'widgit' for your website, that shows your WCG scores.

                                                                                    PS, I think WCG is the only project that directly offers people the opportunity to participate in researching Clean Energy!

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                                                                                    Message 9132 - Posted 27 Jan 2009 23:22:17 UTC

                                                                                      Hydrogen will be doing that ... if they can ever get the project going ... serious teething troubles over there ...
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                                                                                      Message 9175 - Posted 4 Feb 2009 3:34:18 UTC - in response to Message 9051.


                                                                                        We seem to have some problems with the network at the University of Geneva, where this server is hosted. The server was completely unreachable after some maintenance work on Thur, Jan 8th. On Friday it was back, but since yesterday Sun it seems to be reachable on and off. The engineers in Geneva are working on this.

                                                                                        As you may have seen, all remaining workunits have completed last week. It will be a while until there is more work available. The first work that will become available (within the next few weeks) will be for a new implementation of the main malariacontrol application. We'll post more information at time the application is ready.

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                                                                                        Must be getting close!

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                                                                                        Message 9177 - Posted 4 Feb 2009 9:57:33 UTC - in response to Message 9175.


                                                                                          We seem to have some problems with the network at the University of Geneva, where this server is hosted. The server was completely unreachable after some maintenance work on Thur, Jan 8th. On Friday it was back, but since yesterday Sun it seems to be reachable on and off. The engineers in Geneva are working on this.

                                                                                          As you may have seen, all remaining workunits have completed last week. It will be a while until there is more work available. The first work that will become available (within the next few weeks) will be for a new implementation of the main malariacontrol application. We'll post more information at time the application is ready.

                                                                                          Thanks
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                                                                                          Must be getting close!


                                                                                          I HOPE so! Malaria is a Project that needs to get back on line before people give up and move on. I KNOW there will always be new people but the old regulars feel like a bunch of comrades in arms and to lose them would not be good. NO I do NOT want Malaria to come back just so we can recrunch old work just to be crunching. I DO want them to come back so that we can contribute to the eventual curing of the disease though!!
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                                                                                          Message 9181 - Posted 4 Feb 2009 17:15:09 UTC - in response to Message 9177.


                                                                                            We seem to have some problems with the network at the University of Geneva, where this server is hosted. The server was completely unreachable after some maintenance work on Thur, Jan 8th. On Friday it was back, but since yesterday Sun it seems to be reachable on and off. The engineers in Geneva are working on this.

                                                                                            As you may have seen, all remaining workunits have completed last week. It will be a while until there is more work available. The first work that will become available (within the next few weeks) will be for a new implementation of the main malariacontrol application. We'll post more information at time the application is ready.

                                                                                            Thanks
                                                                                            Nick


                                                                                            Must be getting close!


                                                                                            I HOPE so! Malaria is a Project that needs to get back on line before people give up and move on. I KNOW there will always be new people but the old regulars feel like a bunch of comrades in arms and to lose them would not be good. NO I do NOT want Malaria to come back just so we can recrunch old work just to be crunching. I DO want them to come back so that we can contribute to the eventual curing of the disease though!!


                                                                                            I agree qith you!!

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                                                                                            Message 9195 - Posted 5 Feb 2009 17:38:26 UTC

                                                                                              What are the Scientists and Admins plans to get the project sending out work again.

                                                                                              It is a long time since I did any real work here, and it is about time I reconnected.

                                                                                              Looking forwards to hearing when a likely work issue restart date is announced!
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                                                                                              Message 9218 - Posted 7 Feb 2009 8:04:03 UTC

                                                                                                Yes, more work please. I hope you guys don't attach to LHC@home while waiting for more MC work. 25% of the work you crunch at LHC@home goes straight to the trash, nothing but wasted CPU time and electricity.

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                                                                                                Message 9219 - Posted 7 Feb 2009 10:12:45 UTC - in response to Message 9218.

                                                                                                  Yes, more work please. I hope you guys don't attach to LHC@home while waiting for more MC work. 25% of the work you crunch at LHC@home goes straight to the trash, nothing but wasted CPU time and electricity.


                                                                                                  And this has got something to do with Malaria Control how? Give it a break.

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                                                                                                  Message 9220 - Posted 7 Feb 2009 10:57:25 UTC - in response to Message 9219.

                                                                                                    And this has got something to do with Malaria Control how? Give it a break.


                                                                                                    My post is hurting you somehow? You can plonk me so you don't have to read my posts but I'm not going to tell you how. So give it a break?

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                                                                                                    Message 9227 - Posted 7 Feb 2009 18:43:01 UTC - in response to Message 9220.

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                                                                                                      And this has got something to do with Malaria Control how? Give it a break.


                                                                                                      My post is hurting you somehow? You can plonk me so you don't have to read my posts but I'm not going to tell you how. So give it a break?


                                                                                                      This post is in wrong topic, sorry for the red X mark Dagorath.

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                                                                                                      Message 9228 - Posted 8 Feb 2009 1:35:33 UTC - in response to Message 9227.

                                                                                                        And this has got something to do with Malaria Control how? Give it a break.


                                                                                                        My post is hurting you somehow? You can plonk me so you don't have to read my posts but I'm not going to tell you how. So give it a break?


                                                                                                        This post is in wrong topic, sorry for the red X mark Dagorath.

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                                                                                                        Nope. Not wrong topic. There is a precedent. There are several other messages in this thread (this topic) that discuss which alternative projects are good to crunch while we wait for MalariaControl and which projects are not good to crunch. If my message is off-topic then so are all the other messages that discuss alternative projects :)

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                                                                                                        Message 9238 - Posted 8 Feb 2009 20:48:37 UTC - in response to Message 9195.

                                                                                                          It looks like the next batch of available work will be available in 3 weeks airport time. Airport time -- if they say delayed flight will take off in 30 minutes, and you come back in 30 minutes, they tell you that the status hasn't changed, it will take off in 30 minutes. The deal is, it is 30 minutes from whenever you ask. Several weeks ago there was a message suggesting more work would be available here in a few weeks or so, and so if you ask *now* the answer is reset, there will be work available in several weeks from *now*.

                                                                                                          That being said, it would be *lovely* to get a better sense on whether this project is going into Predictor mode, or will have future work and if so, which month would be a good time to expect it.


                                                                                                          What are the Scientists and Admins plans to get the project sending out work again.

                                                                                                          It is a long time since I did any real work here, and it is about time I reconnected.

                                                                                                          Looking forwards to hearing when a likely work issue restart date is announced!

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                                                                                                          Message 9240 - Posted 9 Feb 2009 6:47:46 UTC - in response to Message 9238.

                                                                                                            That being said, it would be *lovely* to get a better sense on whether this project is going into Predictor mode, or will have future work and if so, which month would be a good time to expect it.


                                                                                                            That would be the month where work is created ... :)

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                                                                                                            Message 9241 - Posted 9 Feb 2009 7:21:09 UTC - in response to Message 9240.

                                                                                                              There you go -- you clearly understand the concept of 'airport time'. <g>



                                                                                                              That being said, it would be *lovely* to get a better sense on whether this project is going into Predictor mode, or will have future work and if so, which month would be a good time to expect it.


                                                                                                              That would be the month where work is created ... :)

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                                                                                                              Message 9242 - Posted 9 Feb 2009 10:25:09 UTC - in response to Message 9241.

                                                                                                                There you go -- you clearly understand the concept of 'airport time'. <g>



                                                                                                                That being said, it would be *lovely* to get a better sense on whether this project is going into Predictor mode, or will have future work and if so, which month would be a good time to expect it.


                                                                                                                That would be the month where work is created ... :)



                                                                                                                I think they are scared, is that the right word, to give us a date and then miss it. Even if they said the date was purely a guess, people would hold their feet to the coals screaming bloody murder if they missed it. No I think it is better for the Project to keep quiet until they have a really good feel for when work will be available. Like let us know a day or so before the work is actually ready for us. Then give us all the gory details about your Predictor units, any other kind of special units and how this will help mankind etc.
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                                                                                                                Message 9245 - Posted 9 Feb 2009 15:44:19 UTC

                                                                                                                  Honestly, why do trolls come barking to project forums about lack of work when there are tens of other BOINC projects to subscribe to? I guess that I answered my own question...
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                                                                                                                  Message 9246 - Posted 9 Feb 2009 17:10:36 UTC - in response to Message 9245.

                                                                                                                    Honestly, why do trolls come barking to project forums about lack of work when there are tens of other BOINC projects to subscribe to? I guess that I answered my own question...


                                                                                                                    A quick glance at the Total Credit, number of posts and the Join Dates of posters in this thread (and a few other threads) seems to indicate that almost all of them are regulars who are concerned about the health and future of this project.

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                                                                                                                    Message 9248 - Posted 9 Feb 2009 22:57:49 UTC - in response to Message 9246.

                                                                                                                      I think that is the case. I'd like something of a 'we're hoping for this timeframe, but it could well be later' sort of information. It isn't that I *depend* on running this project -- I've joined something like 10 projects over the years (I first started with the old SETI project, pre BOINC, eight years ago). Of the ten, Climate BBC went offline gracefully, with a lot of notice and no surprises -- full marks to them; Predictor has gone offline very UNgracefully, with broken promises, forum censorship, and a lot of ill-will from the project and to the project. Malaria is the third project to go offline -- I'm hoping they return to generating work as their goal is a clearly good one. The other seven projects I've joined have gone through outages (ranging from hours to days and in some cases weeks), but precisely because of the BOINC approach, shifting CPU cycles from one to another has been pretty painless.

                                                                                                                      One of the reasons this particular thread gets traffic is that the home page points folks here for 'more information' -- so folks do ask to be informed specifically in this thread. It should be noted there has been essentially no new information posted here (or on the home page) for the last month -- so in an informational vacuum, folks tend to get a tad twitchy.




                                                                                                                      A quick glance at the Total Credit, number of posts and the Join Dates of posters in this thread (and a few other threads) seems to indicate that almost all of them are regulars who are concerned about the health and future of this project.

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                                                                                                                      Message 9249 - Posted 9 Feb 2009 23:05:55 UTC - in response to Message 9242.

                                                                                                                        Could be -- personally, I'd like to see some sort of best guess (+/- some number of weeks perhaps). But that's my preference and not yours -- no big deal on the disagreement.

                                                                                                                        By the way, go take a look over at the threads on the Predictor newsgroup -- you should observe the difference in tone there compared to here.

                                                                                                                        For me, its no big deal, I did a lot of processing for Malaria last year, and then began to back off in the fall, before the current nearly two month outage, and the administration folks here were clear in December that there was going to be a hiatus, so I changed the project to 'Suspend' status on my workstations if only to reduce the traffic level for the admins here.





                                                                                                                        I think they are scared, is that the right word, to give us a date and then miss it. Even if they said the date was purely a guess, people would hold their feet to the coals screaming bloody murder if they missed it. No I think it is better for the Project to keep quiet until they have a really good feel for when work will be available. Like let us know a day or so before the work is actually ready for us. Then give us all the gory details about your Predictor units, any other kind of special units and how this will help mankind etc.

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                                                                                                                        Message 9252 - Posted 10 Feb 2009 11:02:34 UTC - in response to Message 9249.

                                                                                                                          [quote]For me, its no big deal, I did a lot of processing for Malaria last year, and then began to back off in the fall, before the current nearly two month outage, and the administration folks here were clear in December that there was going to be a hiatus, so I changed the project to 'Suspend' status on my workstations if only to reduce the traffic level for the admins here. [quote]

                                                                                                                          I did the Suspend too but did it because I read that if you let it keep connecting it is building up Long Term Debt that is then 'owed' to a project. Meaning all your cycles will be spent here and not your other projects. When I come back I want to do it slowly, not slam them with requests and returns.

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                                                                                                                          Message 9257 - Posted 10 Feb 2009 16:26:18 UTC - in response to Message 9252.

                                                                                                                            I did the Suspend too but did it because I read that if you let it keep connecting it is building up Long Term Debt that is then 'owed' to a project. Meaning all your cycles will be spent here and not your other projects. When I come back I want to do it slowly, not slam them with requests and returns.

                                                                                                                            All this micromanaging of BOINC is completely unnecessary.
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                                                                                                                            Message 9258 - Posted 10 Feb 2009 21:19:53 UTC - in response to Message 9257.

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                                                                                                                              I did the Suspend too but did it because I read that if you let it keep connecting it is building up Long Term Debt that is then 'owed' to a project. Meaning all your cycles will be spent here and not your other projects. When I come back I want to do it slowly, not slam them with requests and returns.

                                                                                                                              All this micromanaging of BOINC is completely unnecessary.


                                                                                                                              I have 17 computers currently crunching for different Boinc projects, not micro-managing them is not an option. But if doing things your way works for you, I just wish I had the freedom. I Have been crunching since 1999 and feel the need to do it the way it works for me.
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                                                                                                                              Message 9260 - Posted 10 Feb 2009 21:56:19 UTC - in response to Message 9258.

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                                                                                                                                I have 17 computers currently crunching for different Boinc projects, not micro-managing them is not an option. But if doing things your way works for you, I just wish I had the freedom. I Have been crunching since 1999 and feel the need to do it the way it works for me.

                                                                                                                                I have 12 hosts at the moment, but I've had over 20 at one time, crunching for 3 to 30+ projects, some of which I have access to only seldom. In the 10+ years that I've been crunching, BOINC has finally given me the freedom to let the client sort out any issues. With BAM, I don't really see the need to have access to the hosts, except to update the BOINC client.

                                                                                                                                If a BOINC project dries up, the BOINC client will schedule other projects according to the priorities that I defined. If a BOINC server is not responsive, the BOINC client automatically backs off for a day.

                                                                                                                                Indeed, you're trying to second guess the BOINC client and ignoring all the work that its developers put into it to do away with human intervention. In all likelihood, you're doing more harm than good.
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                                                                                                                                Message 9263 - Posted 11 Feb 2009 7:54:34 UTC - in response to Message 9252.

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                                                                                                                                  Right -- that might be the case. Regarding avoiding slamming a project. I do something similar with SETI. Every Tuesday they have a 4 hour outage, followed by 4 to 8 hours of being slammed due to the backlog (they are the busiest BOINC project by a large margin). So what I do is get in an update before the outage to report completed work, then suspend the project until late Tuesday. By the time I generate more updates to the project, things have settled down a bit.



                                                                                                                                  I did the Suspend too but did it because I read that if you let it keep connecting it is building up Long Term Debt that is then 'owed' to a project. Meaning all your cycles will be spent here and not your other projects. When I come back I want to do it slowly, not slam them with requests and returns.

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                                                                                                                                  Message 9264 - Posted 11 Feb 2009 8:01:38 UTC - in response to Message 9258.

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                                                                                                                                    I agree with you on this one. For some projects one can simply 'let them fly' -- Spinhenge, Einstein, Climate, Rosetta are examples. For SETI, some degree of extra attention is needed. For POEM, I find it doesn't download new work unless it gets a bit of encouragement. MilkyWay was running quite well for quite a while, then last week they had a pretty ugly set of outages -- they actually suggested folks do a reset to resolve matters. A month or so ago, Rosetta had some problems which required more than a reset, they recommended a detach and reconnect in order to get any new work (they had some IP changes to cope with).

                                                                                                                                    There are some folks who advocate the 'set them and forget them' -- if it works fine for them, that's fine with me, I won't suggest they change how they handle things. The flip side is when they suggest that the approach which works for me is 'unnecessary' -- well, I figure they can have the same sort of hands off approach regarding *MY* comfort zone.

                                                                                                                                    I did the Suspend too but did it because I read that if you let it keep connecting it is building up Long Term Debt that is then 'owed' to a project. Meaning all your cycles will be spent here and not your other projects. When I come back I want to do it slowly, not slam them with requests and returns.

                                                                                                                                    All this micromanaging of BOINC is completely unnecessary.


                                                                                                                                    I have 17 computers currently crunching for different Boinc projects, not micro-managing them is not an option. But if doing things your way works for you, I just wish I had the freedom. I Have been crunching since 1999 and feel the need to do it the way it works for me.

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                                                                                                                                    Message 9265 - Posted 11 Feb 2009 10:02:33 UTC - in response to Message 9264.

                                                                                                                                      I agree with you on this one. For some projects one can simply 'let them fly' -- Spinhenge, Einstein, Climate, Rosetta are examples. For SETI, some degree of extra attention is needed. For POEM, I find it doesn't download new work unless it gets a bit of encouragement. MilkyWay was running quite well for quite a while, then last week they had a pretty ugly set of outages -- they actually suggested folks do a reset to resolve matters. A month or so ago, Rosetta had some problems which required more than a reset, they recommended a detach and reconnect in order to get any new work (they had some IP changes to cope with).

                                                                                                                                      There are some folks who advocate the 'set them and forget them' -- if it works fine for them, that's fine with me, I won't suggest they change how they handle things. The flip side is when they suggest that the approach which works for me is 'unnecessary' -- well, I figure they can have the same sort of hands off approach regarding *MY* comfort zone.


                                                                                                                                      I agree with you, a week or so ago I just could not get Rosetta to download the new mini-rosetta client to my Windows machines. I even downloaded the exe file manually and Boinc STILL wanted to download it by itself and STILL to this day hangs at 82.4%!! Now my Linux machines work just fine on Rosetta, so my Windows machines are doing either Poem, having no problems at all, or ABC, no problems there either. I had no problems with Malaria either.
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                                                                                                                                      Message 9267 - Posted 11 Feb 2009 10:17:28 UTC - in response to Message 9260.

                                                                                                                                        I have 17 computers currently crunching for different Boinc projects, not micro-managing them is not an option. But if doing things your way works for you, I just wish I had the freedom. I Have been crunching since 1999 and feel the need to do it the way it works for me.

                                                                                                                                        I have 12 hosts at the moment, but I've had over 20 at one time, crunching for 3 to 30+ projects, some of which I have access to only seldom. In the 10+ years that I've been crunching, BOINC has finally given me the freedom to let the client sort out any issues. With BAM, I don't really see the need to have access to the hosts, except to update the BOINC client.

                                                                                                                                        If a BOINC project dries up, the BOINC client will schedule other projects according to the priorities that I defined. If a BOINC server is not responsive, the BOINC client automatically backs off for a day.

                                                                                                                                        Indeed, you're trying to second guess the BOINC client and ignoring all the work that its developers put into it to do away with human intervention. In all likelihood, you're doing more harm than good.


                                                                                                                                        You are definitely entitled to your opinion, it just doesn't work for me. I am a one project per pc kinda guy, I like dumping as many resources at a project that they can handle while also trying to bring my other project stats up past my Seti stats. I crunched Seti for YEARS but had a basic falling out a few years ago. This is not the place to discuss that, just leave it that I will not go back! I was well on my way with Malaria until the units dried up, but they WILL be back someday!! At least I hope so. I am currently dumping alot of resources into ABC but also like the idea of Rosetta, so they get some resources too. As for Poem, they are a good place to crunch since my Windows machines just will not work with the new mini-rosetta. They worked fine before the new version, they just will not work with the new one! But when Malaria comes back, all of the Poem machines come back here, including maybe some of the others. Before I started ABC all my machines were here at Malaria.

                                                                                                                                        I too was up into the mid 20's for numbers of active pc's but before I had my server 23 was the max I could put on my network. After my wife complained about a couple of $500.00 a month electric bills I backed off a bit on the numbers of pc's crunching. I was down to 15 for a bit during the end of this last summer but have eased it back up during the winter. It is in the high 40's outside this morning, but it is 74.3F in my basement. We keep the house set at 66F during the winter. I wish there was an easy way to recycle the pc's heat back into the rest of the house, but that would take some major redoing and I am not going there. My wife retires in 2 1/2 years and we may move, so no major changes are going to happen anytime soon.
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                                                                                                                                        Message 9269 - Posted 11 Feb 2009 15:37:01 UTC - in response to Message 9263.

                                                                                                                                          Regarding avoiding slamming a project. I do something similar with SETI. Every Tuesday they have a 4 hour outage, followed by 4 to 8 hours of being slammed due to the backlog (they are the busiest BOINC project by a large margin).

                                                                                                                                          Actually, according to the SETI administrators, they are slammed because volunteers are clicking "project update" manually. IOW, people trying to micro-manage the BOINC client.

                                                                                                                                          What the BOINC client will do in the scenario above is to back off for an incrementally longer period, from a few minutes to several hours, giving the SETI servers a break. And it is not necessary to refresh the project if you set the option "Maintain enough work for an additional x days" to a couple of days.

                                                                                                                                          IOW, educate yourself about BOINC. It's a pretty good distributed computing platform that scales to tens if not hundreds of hosts without requiring the manual intervention that some are so obsessed about.

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                                                                                                                                          Message 9271 - Posted 11 Feb 2009 20:18:56 UTC - in response to Message 9269.

                                                                                                                                            I do understand the theory here. As I noted before (and others have chimed in as well), there seem to be perhaps several different approaches with their advocates. For me, my approach seems to work well. I don't try to push it as an approach on others, particularly those who are in the 'fire it up and forget it' school such as yourself. As I noted, I don't push my approach on others, but do tend to push back when folks such as you talk about alternative approaches to yours as uneducated and obsessive.

                                                                                                                                            I have a large number of computers running BOINC at various locations. For those at locations I don't get to frequently, I do run the approach you suggest -- but I do that with low maintenance projects (Climate, Spinhenge, Einstein). Until this extended outage here Malaria was in that set.

                                                                                                                                            For computers I can readily get to I run some other projects such as SETI, POEM, Milkyway). These periodically do need some 'care and feeding' (from my perspective, not yours). In some cases we are talking Beta and Alpha projects so one should actually expect some closer involvement, in others (particularly SETI) they are running close to the edge of their capacity and so are in some ways like a beta or alpha project.

                                                                                                                                            I figure I don't need to explain further to you the thinking behind my approach but would suggest that you not be so obsessive about promulgating the fire up and forget approach as the only reasonable and rational approach.





                                                                                                                                            What the BOINC client will do in the scenario above is to back off for an incrementally longer period, from a few minutes to several hours, giving the SETI servers a break. And it is not necessary to refresh the project if you set the option "Maintain enough work for an additional x days" to a couple of days.

                                                                                                                                            IOW, educate yourself about BOINC. It's a pretty good distributed computing platform that scales to tens if not hundreds of hosts without requiring the manual intervention that some are so obsessed about.

                                                                                                                                            HTH

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                                                                                                                                            Message 9272 - Posted 11 Feb 2009 21:10:19 UTC

                                                                                                                                              I apologize for my poor choice of words.

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                                                                                                                                              Message 9275 - Posted 12 Feb 2009 0:20:48 UTC - in response to Message 9272.

                                                                                                                                                Works for me. I do hope I was not seen as 'uncivil' in my reply.

                                                                                                                                                I agree that with reasonably well running projects, setting them up and letting them run works at least reasonably well. If it didn't I'd not be able to set BOINC up on remote workstations. The trick is to be selective in terms of projects. I think some of the folks in the SETI boards have gotten a bit defensive about SETI in terms of the issues there. SETI has a weekly outage of 4 to 5 hours (not the 2 to 4 hours they note on their home page Tuesday announcement). With their post outage recovery cycle of over one hour per hour of outage that makes for a half day outage. With other things being so close to the edge there, SETI is typically either out of work, or offline, or bouncing uploads, or something else is amiss about 15% of the time these days. In large part it is simply a function of being by far the most popular BOINC project -- lot's of I/O lots of processing in general, and a limited budget.

                                                                                                                                                I understand that for the SETI folks and tend to cut them at least some slack recognizing their constraints. The thing is, their limited budget is not as limited as a lot of other (and much smaller projects). So when some SETI advocates get defensive or press hard for donations (say to get 'Fiber up the hill'), in the current economic times, they run into some resistance.

                                                                                                                                                Then when some SETI folks do the 'we are the standard and BOINC projects should conform to us' -- that too can get on one's nerves a bit.

                                                                                                                                                One other reason for doing some tweaking, is to respond to the fairly frequent client changes, not just the major moves from 3x to 4.x to 5x to 6x (gosh that reminds me of my NetWare days) but also the various 'semi-major' moves within the major versions. The relatively recent move from 6.19 to 6.45 with 'Cuda support is a prime example. That certainly requires a bit of hand holding when making the switch, especially with GE8x or 9x video cards. Add to that traffic the fairly active user testing of client beta releases. These all need some of that manual attention that some might consider 'obsessive' -- but that activity is in fact in support of the BOINC concept -- those clients need testing by active users.

                                                                                                                                                I'll close this by reaffirming that for many (probably most) BOINC 'users' an install and forget approach makes a lot of sense. For those supporting more workstations (with a broad range of hardware and OS involvement), a more hands on approach also makes sense. I'm one of those big tent guys I guess <smile>.


                                                                                                                                                I apologize for my poor choice of words.

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                                                                                                                                                Message 9294 - Posted 15 Feb 2009 20:51:50 UTC

                                                                                                                                                  The lack of 'official' feedback in this thread for the past month or more (which the home page points people to) suggests the possibility that the project folks have run into some significant impass in development which might result in this project staying offline for many many months. Clearly it isn't a case of a few weeks as it has been two months since new work was available here.
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                                                                                                                                                  Message 9298 - Posted 16 Feb 2009 11:22:48 UTC - in response to Message 9294.

                                                                                                                                                    The lack of 'official' feedback in this thread for the past month or more (which the home page points people to) suggests the possibility that the project folks have run into some significant impass in development which might result in this project staying offline for many many months. Clearly it isn't a case of a few weeks as it has been two months since new work was available here.


                                                                                                                                                    I personally sure hope that is not correct. As you say it could be, but I can certainly hope not!!
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                                                                                                                                                    Message 9301 - Posted 16 Feb 2009 16:05:55 UTC - in response to Message 9298.

                                                                                                                                                      The lack of 'official' feedback in this thread for the past month or more (which the home page points people to) suggests the possibility that the project folks have run into some significant impass in development which might result in this project staying offline for many many months. Clearly it isn't a case of a few weeks as it has been two months since new work was available here.


                                                                                                                                                      I personally sure hope that is not correct. As you say it could be, but I can certainly hope not!!


                                                                                                                                                      The dengue subproject at WCG is getting more active.

                                                                                                                                                      Rosetta@home is now using minirosetta 1.54, with a number of bug fixes, and is recovering from a hardware problem yesterday. RALPH@home is already testing minirosetta 1.58, with even more.

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                                                                                                                                                      Message 9304 - Posted 16 Feb 2009 19:49:33 UTC

                                                                                                                                                        Presumably you have all seen that the project is advertising for a software engineer.
                                                                                                                                                        It's therefore not unreasonable to expect some more dedicated activity around the development of the science apps when the new recruit has been through their orientation, and not so much before then.

                                                                                                                                                        There's nothing to suggest that this project is anywhere near closing down, so if we exercise a little more patience, I think we'll be rewarded. :) In the mean time we could just let boinc do its thing elsewhere...

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                                                                                                                                                        Message 9307 - Posted 17 Feb 2009 9:53:35 UTC - in response to Message 9304.

                                                                                                                                                          Presumably you have all seen that the project is advertising for a software engineer.
                                                                                                                                                          It's therefore not unreasonable to expect some more dedicated activity around the development of the science apps when the new recruit has been through their orientation, and not so much before then.

                                                                                                                                                          There's nothing to suggest that this project is anywhere near closing down, so if we exercise a little more patience, I think we'll be rewarded. :) In the mean time we could just let boinc do its thing elsewhere...


                                                                                                                                                          I had not seen that, thanks. I HOPE he gets hired and on board soon! I would like to move my stats here up past my Seti stats!!
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                                                                                                                                                          Message 9311 - Posted 18 Feb 2009 7:33:25 UTC - in response to Message 9298.

                                                                                                                                                            Agreed -- the thing is, in the absence of information, the speculative mode can kick in.


                                                                                                                                                            I personally sure hope that is not correct. As you say it could be, but I can certainly hope not!!


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                                                                                                                                                            Message 9312 - Posted 18 Feb 2009 7:34:53 UTC - in response to Message 9301.

                                                                                                                                                              Yes -- both WCG and Rosetta are active projects for me.



                                                                                                                                                              The dengue subproject at WCG is getting more active.

                                                                                                                                                              Rosetta@home is now using minirosetta 1.54, with a number of bug fixes, and is recovering from a hardware problem yesterday. RALPH@home is already testing minirosetta 1.58, with even more.


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                                                                                                                                                              Message 9313 - Posted 18 Feb 2009 7:37:19 UTC - in response to Message 9304.

                                                                                                                                                                I hadn't seen that -- but thanks for that information. As to BOINC doing its thing -- yup -- I've supported 10 projects over time, 7 of which are still very active in addition to this one which, as you suggest, may well have work to be done at some time in the future.


                                                                                                                                                                Presumably you have all seen that the project is advertising for a software engineer.
                                                                                                                                                                It's therefore not unreasonable to expect some more dedicated activity around the development of the science apps when the new recruit has been through their orientation, and not so much before then.

                                                                                                                                                                There's nothing to suggest that this project is anywhere near closing down, so if we exercise a little more patience, I think we'll be rewarded. :) In the mean time we could just let boinc do its thing elsewhere...


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                                                                                                                                                                Message 9317 - Posted 18 Feb 2009 21:52:54 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                  Hello,
                                                                                                                                                                  Malaria@Home has a part of my heart , friends that have this Disease, and how, really a cure is needed.Plaquenil, could be maybe used on a National level.I know the All Mighty Dollar dictates
                                                                                                                                                                  what happens in this World, good, or, Bad.I hope the years of crunching have helped in some small way.
                                                                                                                                                                  I hope I can get some work soon.

                                                                                                                                                                  Good Luck Malaria@home, the scientists, Forum Mods, and too all you Crunchers "Coodos"
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                                                                                                                                                                  Message 9336 - Posted 22 Feb 2009 4:38:00 UTC - in response to Message 9317.

                                                                                                                                                                    Hello,
                                                                                                                                                                    Malaria@Home has a part of my heart , friends that have this Disease, and how, really a cure is needed.Plaquenil, could be maybe used on a National level.I know the All Mighty Dollar dictates
                                                                                                                                                                    what happens in this World, good, or, Bad.I hope the years of crunching have helped in some small way.
                                                                                                                                                                    I hope I can get some work soon.

                                                                                                                                                                    Good Luck Malaria@home, the scientists, Forum Mods, and too all you Crunchers "Coodos"
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                                                                                                                                                                    Dengue is issuing work again ... not sure how much, but I have seen some float by these last few days ...

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                                                                                                                                                                    Message 9366 - Posted 25 Feb 2009 6:28:41 UTC - in response to Message 9336.

                                                                                                                                                                      Hello,
                                                                                                                                                                      Malaria@Home has a part of my heart , friends that have this Disease, and how, really a cure is needed.Plaquenil, could be maybe used on a National level.I know the All Mighty Dollar dictates
                                                                                                                                                                      what happens in this World, good, or, Bad.I hope the years of crunching have helped in some small way.
                                                                                                                                                                      I hope I can get some work soon.

                                                                                                                                                                      Good Luck Malaria@home, the scientists, Forum Mods, and too all you Crunchers "Coodos"
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                                                                                                                                                                      Dengue is issuing work again ... not sure how much, but I have seen some float by these last few days ...


                                                                                                                                                                      I have received work now, not sure how lonog this will last bad good to get something going!

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                                                                                                                                                                      Message 9368 - Posted 25 Feb 2009 9:35:31 UTC - in response to Message 9366.

                                                                                                                                                                        I have received work now, not sure how long this will last bad good to get something going!


                                                                                                                                                                        Yes Malaria is back and giving work to those that crunch the Test apps. If you only crunch the normal units they are not here yet.
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                                                                                                                                                                        Message 9373 - Posted 25 Feb 2009 12:49:21 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                          A new application is being tested. You will get work if you have selected to run 'test' apps.

                                                                                                                                                                          See thread http://www.malariacontrol.net/forum_thread.php?id=848

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                                                                                                                                                                          Message 9438 - Posted 8 Mar 2009 1:34:41 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                            I had problems a while back - 2 different BOINC managers fired up so my stats were messed up for a while. Before that I had problems with ClimatePrediction - it took control of all my time so I had to set it to a really low priority.

                                                                                                                                                                            I started out with 4 different projects on each of my machines just because I could not choose between them. On WCG I limit my choices by what badge I have earned so far. I really like the BOINC concept except sometimes I worry about the power consumption but...
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                                                                                                                                                                            Message 9441 - Posted 8 Mar 2009 19:33:24 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                              I'm looking for work on this project for a while.
                                                                                                                                                                              When will it restart ?
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                                                                                                                                                                              Message 9445 - Posted 9 Mar 2009 6:25:42 UTC - in response to Message 9441.

                                                                                                                                                                                I'm looking for work on this project for a while.
                                                                                                                                                                                When will it restart ?
                                                                                                                                                                                Does anybody have an idea about it ?



                                                                                                                                                                                There is work 'in testing' which is coming out intermittently.
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                                                                                                                                                                                Message 9456 - Posted 10 Mar 2009 9:07:20 UTC - in response to Message 9373.

                                                                                                                                                                                  A new application is being tested. You will get work if you have selected to run 'test' apps.

                                                                                                                                                                                  See thread http://www.malariacontrol.net/forum_thread.php?id=848

                                                                                                                                                                                  I haven't seen any work since the two test WUs I got. All they managed to do was raise my RAC from 0 to 7.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm cued up waiting for something. My 'puter is hungry.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  Message 9457 - Posted 10 Mar 2009 10:39:23 UTC - in response to Message 9456.

                                                                                                                                                                                    A new application is being tested. You will get work if you have selected to run 'test' apps.

                                                                                                                                                                                    See thread http://www.malariacontrol.net/forum_thread.php?id=848

                                                                                                                                                                                    I haven't seen any work since the two test WUs I got. All they managed to do was raise my RAC from 0 to 7.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm cued up waiting for something. My 'puter is hungry.


                                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah I suspended mine again and am running other projects again. I even changed my settings to crunch test units just so I could get in early. Oh well, hopefully all is progressing smoothly and we will be crunching again soon!
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                                                                                                                                                                                    Message 9460 - Posted 10 Mar 2009 16:58:45 UTC

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                                                                                                                                                                                      We're slowly starting to send out new workunits now. Sorry, I was completely absorbed with non-malariacontrol.net work for the last two weeks, and only now managed to fix the problem with the assimilator. This was necessary before it made sense to send out new work.
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Message 9462 - Posted 10 Mar 2009 17:39:16 UTC - in response to Message 9460.

                                                                                                                                                                                        I finally got some work. Thanks!

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Message 9467 - Posted 10 Mar 2009 21:02:59 UTC - in response to Message 9460.

                                                                                                                                                                                          We're slowly starting to send out new workunits now. Sorry, I was completely absorbed with non-malariacontrol.net work for the last two weeks, and only now managed to fix the problem with the assimilator. This was necessary before it made sense to send out new work.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Note that there may be times again in the next few weeks where there is no new work even for the test app, as we may stop sending workunits if we find critical bugs.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks
                                                                                                                                                                                          Nick


                                                                                                                                                                                          You do what you need to do and we will crunch when we can. Both sides are happy, you get results and we get the satisfaction of knowing we are helping!!
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Message 9478 - Posted 11 Mar 2009 11:40:30 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                                            Greetings!
                                                                                                                                                                                            Do we have any updates as to what work we can process ?
                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks Much,
                                                                                                                                                                                            Ed Stites

                                                                                                                                                                                            PS: As one who had to deal with Malaria as a teenager ANYTHING that I can do to help Wipeout the scourage, I Want to do!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Message 9495 - Posted 12 Mar 2009 22:51:29 UTC - in response to Message 8750.

                                                                                                                                                                                              for 64bit windows machines is it not working?

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Message 9496 - Posted 12 Mar 2009 23:29:30 UTC - in response to Message 9495.

                                                                                                                                                                                                for 64bit windows machines is it not working?


                                                                                                                                                                                                The project is only sending out TEST WUs currently. Unless you have TEST applications enabled in your preferences you will not get anything.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Message 9612 - Posted 29 Mar 2009 17:28:08 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                                                  please admin when there are no WUs available send out a server message in responce to schedulers such as the ones sent by SIMAP and superlink@technicon

                                                                                                                                                                                                  at least you can see then that there is nothing wrong.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Message 9614 - Posted 29 Mar 2009 22:46:08 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Good idea !

                                                                                                                                                                                                    By the way, how was the WU test ? When are you going to produce some ?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Message 9644 - Posted 3 Apr 2009 19:28:48 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                                                      My computers is getting hungry, I need some mosquitos to kill…..
                                                                                                                                                                                                      When is new work available?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Message 9656 - Posted 5 Apr 2009 21:16:49 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Maybe Bill Gates money has run out and they need to apply for more.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'd love to crunch mossies again!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Message 9718 - Posted 13 Apr 2009 10:10:27 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                                                          According to the server status report, you have 12,414 work units ready to send.
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yet my machine seems unable to get any even though I am signed up to accept everything. This is a dual hyperthreaded Xeon machine with 8 GBytes RAM running Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:09 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 72576 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for malariacontrol.net
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for malariacontrol.net test version
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for Prediction of Malaria Prevalence
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for Estimation of parameters of infection dynamics (variable duration, max 4h)

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Any ideas why I am unable to get work? This goes on for months now, even though sometimes work is shown to be available.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Message 9722 - Posted 13 Apr 2009 23:13:43 UTC - in response to Message 9718.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            are you sure you are accepting "test" jobs?
                                                                                                                                                                                                            as I understand, the last few months all jobs sent out have been test ones.
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mark

                                                                                                                                                                                                            According to the server status report, you have 12,414 work units ready to send.
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yet my machine seems unable to get any even though I am signed up to accept everything. This is a dual hyperthreaded Xeon machine with 8 GBytes RAM running Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:09 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 72576 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for malariacontrol.net
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for malariacontrol.net test version
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for Prediction of Malaria Prevalence
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for Estimation of parameters of infection dynamics (variable duration, max 4h)

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Any ideas why I am unable to get work? This goes on for months now, even though sometimes work is shown to be available.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Message 9724 - Posted 14 Apr 2009 1:10:15 UTC - in response to Message 9722.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              are you sure you are accepting "test" jobs?
                                                                                                                                                                                                              as I understand, the last few months all jobs sent out have been test ones.
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mark

                                                                                                                                                                                                              According to the server status report, you have 12,414 work units ready to send.
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yet my machine seems unable to get any even though I am signed up to accept everything. This is a dual hyperthreaded Xeon machine with 8 GBytes RAM running Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:09 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 72576 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for malariacontrol.net
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for malariacontrol.net test version
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for Prediction of Malaria Prevalence
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mon 13 Apr 2009 05:50:14 AM EDT|malariacontrol.net|Message from server: No work is available for Estimation of parameters of infection dynamics (variable duration, max 4h)

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Any ideas why I am unable to get work? This goes on for months now, even though sometimes work is shown to be available.



                                                                                                                                                                                                              That is it. I thought I had selected to run everything, but missed the one for test jobs. I selected test jobs for some other project, but thought it was this one.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thank you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Message 9966 - Posted 17 May 2009 1:03:30 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Finally, some non-test jobs again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                If there aren't enough for you, here's some news about other projects elsewhere:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                WCG now has a reasonable supply of dengue workunits again, as well as a few new projects, such as the one on swine flu.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Rosetta@home has a low error rate again, although currently with relatively low emphasis on malaria. minirosetta is now up to 1.67.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                GPUGRID allows you to accumulate BOINC credits fast if you have any of their list of suitable Nvidia graphics cards. Their descriptions of what types of medical science problems they are working on do not make it clear to most people whether their work has any relation to malaria. Requires a BOINC version too new to be especially stable; 6.6.20 currently recommended.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.gpugrid.net/

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Message 9972 - Posted 17 May 2009 16:18:41 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Avoid 6.6.20... though it was recommended it has some interesting and severe bugs including one that causes tasks to run way long. Get 6.6.28 though you may have to fiddle with GPU preferences to get the GPU running again (they changed from opt-in to opt-out as the default)...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  6.6.28 is now the new recommended version (or was the lat time I looked).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Other disease / folding type projects Robert did not list include IBERCIVIS ( at least one sub-project), Docking@Home, Poem@Home ...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not that you should abandon all work here ... :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Message 10993 - Posted 22 Sep 2009 16:49:46 UTC - in response to Message 9478.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Greetings!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Do we have any updates as to what work we can process ?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks Much,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ed Stites

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    PS: As one who had to deal with Malaria as a teenager ANYTHING that I can do to help Wipeout the scourage, I Want to do!!!


                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The amyloid work at Rosetta@home is likely to eventually help malaria research, since the malaria parasite has an amyloid coating. CAUTIONS: Their applications are memory-hungry enough that they don't recommend running them on machines with less than 1 GB of physical memory. Their minirosetta application currently has a memory leak which eventually uses even more memory that the 500 MB it used to use. In order to limit the number of memory-hungry workunits BOINC can try to run on a machine with multiple CPU cores, I do not recommend running Rosetta@home while BOINC is allowed to use more than 40% of the physical memory. In other words, a list of problems longer than you'd expect at a site past beta test, and their frequent software updates cause new problems fairly often.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    If you feel like Malaria@home should have the first priority on use of your machine, and Rosetta@home should have the second priority, just give Rosetta@home a significantly lower share of your CPU time (such as a tenth as much), and the more frequent availability of workunits at Rosetta@home will soon change the project debts BOINC uses enough that BOINC will soon get Rosetta@home workunits only when its last few requests for Malaria@home workunits didn't get enough.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Some news that might lead to a new type of workunits for mosquito-bourne diseases, although not necessarily for malaria:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.news-medical.net/news/2009/05/13/Scientists-develop-tool-to-study-a-deadly-parasitee28099s-histone-code.aspx

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